Post by gadreel on Aug 21, 2017 2:00:21 GMT

Of course I cannot demonstrate that an intelligence was involved, but then I am not saying I believe that there was.
I am saying that the universe (in my opinion) is best INTERPRETED as if it was created by an intelligence, this actually makes no claim as to whether it was or not, simply that my interpretation of the universe works with that in mind.
Ok that's fair then, and clears up where I thought you were at.
What about it takes intelligence though? We know that gravity organizes galaxies and solar systems, we know that under intense gravity balls of gas form heavy elements through nuclear fusion that we call stars, we know gravity forms planets out of debris from stars, we know that RNA a molecule and building block of life can form naturally, and we know that the initial energy of the universe could have formed naturally through quantum fluctuation as well.
So what does an intelligence better explain?
I don't know how much you know about Jewish philosophy but they hold God as Unknowable, that is to say all we know of God is the effect that the entity has on the universe. At some point we (you and I) will both agree that we do not know how the universe was created (not implying creation by an entity just it beginning of existence, just the only word I can think of there), and we have to make a leap of decision, was it intentional by an intelligence or was it random by some natural force. For me it makes more sense given the other metaphysical theories I follow that I treat that force as intelligent.
Honestly in terms of metaphysics it makes no day to day difference to me, and I imagine that I live my life in a very similar way to you, at the point that the question comes into play it really is just an intellectual exercise.

