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Post by gadreel on Aug 21, 2017 18:52:34 GMT
Again I need to be clear, because I think we are going into the truth claim thing again or the evidence based model. I am not making a truth claim, nor am I suggesting that anything currently held by science is incorrect. I hold that an intelligence fits my metaphysical model better than random chance would. So I am not making a truth claim, I am saying that the model I have in my head of how the universe interact and how it came to be works best if the source is treated as if it was intelligent, this is an important distinction, treated as if. Like I say I am not making a truth claim, just talking about my model of the universe. Yes, I understand, I'm asking how an intelligence better fits.
Also I'm always curious when people use the term random chance, and what they mean by that. Is a cloud forming "random chance"? Is the path of a river "random chance"?
I'm assuming you don't think an intelligence better fits those events, so why does an intelligence better fit the universe at large? Or life, or anything else?
I honestly don't know what you mean by random chance. When people say that, it seems like they are referring to the processes of physics or chemistry, and I wouldn't call those processes random. So I just want to clarify.
You are of course correct, random chance is a terrible word, natural processes I suppose in all the instances you are talking about, and I would say that if an intelligence fits the creation of the universe then technically all those natural processes are the end result of intelligence, but I see the point you are making and i agree. I think that an intelligence fitting is simply personal preference, my metaphysical model is influenced by the tree of life diagram in jewish philosophy and that is based on emotive forces (strength, love etc), in keeping with that interpreting the universe in an emotional/mental light fits the model. Again I need to stress this is not a truth claim, but an interpretive choice.
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