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Post by gadreel on Aug 21, 2017 19:28:49 GMT
You are of course correct, random chance is a terrible word, natural processes I suppose in all the instances you are talking about, and I would say that if an intelligence fits the creation of the universe then technically all those natural processes are the end result of intelligence, but I see the point you are making and i agree. I think that an intelligence fitting is simply personal preference, my metaphysical model is influenced by the tree of life diagram in jewish philosophy and that is based on emotive forces (strength, love etc), in keeping with that interpreting the universe in an emotional/mental light fits the model. Again I need to stress this is not a truth claim, but an interpretive choice. Awesome, so great dialog here and I think we've gotten to a really interesting point.
I have two subtley different questions about personal preference here. Why is it a factor at all? And why is intelligence your preference, or more importantly, why isn't your preference for an accurate view of reality, whether an intelligence is involved or not?
Why is intelligence a factor??? Not really sure I understand the question, but I guess you are asking me why do I care??? I think that (given we do not know) at the end of the day we all make a choice as to whether we think an intelligence is involved or not, I choose to think there is. There is no other reason than personal interpretation and comfort of choice. My preference is for an accurate view of reality (in as much as it can be), and as I have said previously I defer to science and understanding first, like I say it isnot even really a truth claim it is a matter of interpretation. To put it another way, even if I knew for a fact that an intelligence was not involved, my model of the universe would still have to change before I abandoned interpreting the universe as if it was sourced from an intelligence. Another way of looking at it is that I don't really care what the final truth is, my model of the universe interprets the source as intelligent, my model would have to change first. This is why I am very adamant that I am not making a truth claim, I am instead holding a model of interpretation in my head that allows me to come to grips with the reality I face. |
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