Why Is Anybody Convinced There Is A God?

Why Is Anybody Convinced There Is A God? Aug 22, 2017 10:54:31 GMT

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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 22, 2017 10:54:31 GMT

Aug 21, 2017 23:26:25 GMT Toasted Cheese said:

Aug 21, 2017 12:14:56 GMT Terrapin Station said:

Note that I wasn't asking you for proof of anything, by the way. Proof is a different sort of idea.

But okay, it sounds kind of like you're saying that how we know that something is an illusion, why we'd believe that, is because different people experience different things, they disagree with each other, etc.--is that basically it?

Proof, support, same thing really. We are experiencing different realties within the same realm.

What needs to be acknowledged, is that clarity of self-awareness about our being and purpose here, can only prevail and be fully realized, when duality is dissolved within the concept\notion of what God represents. Only then can we transcend\transform. It is ALL God. All the rest is just process and content of the thinking and controlling monkey mind which thrives and supports the ego. This is not a bad thing, but it need to be reigned in, if it is to evolve and become mindful and present.

Proof implies that something can't be wrong. If we've proved that P, then it's not possible that not-P. Otherwise we haven't proved that P. Proof also has a normative implication.

One's support for something is simply the reasons that one believes what one does. And it doesn't necessarily have a normative implication, because the reasons that one believes what one does can be very personal.

Re different people experiencing different things, that's simply because we don't have identical perspectives. It doesn't imply that anything is illusory. We don't occupy the same space, for example, so you perceive things from one perspective, and I perceive them from another. That's not the only thing that's going on there, but it's one example.

So if we both walk into my kitchen, we should both see the refrigerator. We won't see it exactly the same, because we don't have identical perspectives--we're seeing it from different angles, we might be seeing different sides, etc., and we don't have identical perceptual faculties If you don't see it at all, then there's reason to wonder what's going on with your perceptual faculties, or what might be going in your brain aside from your perceptual faculties, once you receive that external information.

"Purposes" are simply things we invent for ourselves as individuals, when we do (not everyone invents a purpose for him/herself).