DC movie franchise but not part of DCEU

DC movie franchise but not part of DCEU Aug 23, 2017 16:05:07 GMT

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Post by judgejosephdredd on Aug 23, 2017 16:05:07 GMT

Aug 23, 2017 3:08:23 GMT DC-Fan said:

Aug 22, 2017 23:59:51 GMT sdrew13163 said:

1) Just make it the origin of Leto's Joker. There's no need to add to confusion and start a whole new universe.

2) The DC characters are not split up as Marvel characters are by rights holders (X-Men belong to Fox, Spider-Man to Sony, etc). Just keep one universe.

It's a multiverse. That's how they can have a Superman and a Flash in the movies and a Superman and a Flash on the CW TV shows. This is no different.

Aug 22, 2017 23:59:51 GMT sdrew13163 said:

3) The Joker is not supposed to have an origin.

The Joker did have an origin in the comics. He was a thief who wore a Red Hood and was the 1 criminal whom Batman could never catch or identify who he was.

The problem with having a separate DC movie franchise that is not connected with the rest of the DCEU is that it creates brand confusion, doesn't matter how good or bad the product could be it will still puzzle a lot of people. This will be especially confusing if The Joker appears in another movie or two the very year this origins movie supposedly is released.

Using the ol' "its a multiverse" defense doesn't shut people up about this and only a small fraction of the movie going community will understand what it entails. Unless an earlier DCEU establishes it, general movie goers will still be puzzled by whatever continuity differences, if any, are presented in the film. I can only see Flashpoint establishing this idea, and that would be a smart move to do so but I don't think they'll go out of their way to make it so.

A Joker origins movie is in my opinion a bad idea, part of the appeal of the character is that his origin is never set in stone, even his most iconic origin piece The Killing Joke is probably his imagination gone wild -- as he is, y'know, totally insane. One of the things The Dark Knight got especially right was that The Joker gave different backstories for why he turned out the way he did with a few implications of what may have truly been his backstory which fans are still debating about -- For example, plenty think he has a militaristic origin from his "truckload of soldiers" line.