Films Outside The DCEU Is Just Creative Laziness

Aug 26, 2017 12:26:15 GMT faustus5 said:

Aug 25, 2017 16:46:08 GMT ArArArchStanton said:

You're confusing artistic freedom with being too lazy to care about continuity.

They aren't making an artistic choice here.  They just aren't trying to maintain continuity.  They want you to buy that this is some bold decision they've made, when all they've done is give up.  I mean it would be great to go into work, not do my job, and then have my employer still pay me for being productively creative.

The assumption you are making here is that artists are obligated to go with plans cooked up by studio executives who care nothing about creativity or art, and that if artists aren't interested in those plans and want to go their own way, it means they are "giving up". This is complete and utter bullshit. Comic book writers have historically constantly broken out of established continuities to create their own stand-alone stories. The movies should be no different.

No, I'm saying an artist can make a plan and work with other artists to create a larger collaborative vision, leaving them plenty of room to be creative with their own project.

One of the most creative things you can do is weave a story into an existing framework, so the only bullshit is acting like standalone films represent a higher form of creativity.

All DC is doing with any standalones is telling you they don't care to make the effort of having somebody like a Whedon lead an effort like Feige has done.  They tried with Snyder, but giving up and doing standalones is just that, it's giving up.

Listen, I'm sincerely just being honest about what's happening because as an artist it upsets me to see lack of effort sold to dedicated fans, and it is a little funny how quickly some DC Fans got outraged over statements about actual facts.  For instance, I remember on the IMDB boards I asked one day about the news that Batman was going to be in the title of what everybody thought was MOS2 at the time.  All I heard was absolute denial that Batman was a major character, that it was a Man of Steel movie with some Batman, and I was a troll for brining it up.  I don't know why there was such heated denial, but just months later were perfectly fine with it all of a sudden, because they care about liking the movie more than they care about the movie.  I care about the movie, how it's put together, the larger vision, etc.  WB doesn't care about their product which is why it's been a mess.  They just know you care about liking it enough to buy into they give you.  And I find that offensive on their part.