Jesus and free will

Jesus and free will Sept 6, 2017 0:53:39 GMT

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Post by cupcakes on Sept 6, 2017 0:53:39 GMT

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Sept 5, 2017 14:55:14 GMT @miccee said:

Sept 5, 2017 0:28:41 GMT cupcakes said:

Directly from your posts, you seem to be a morose mental case, willing to post the most absurd of things pulled directly out of your ass to support your rabidly morbid faith.

I only know what we see and the science is able to establish and describe at any given time. And I further recognize attempted sleights via lugubriously emotional non-sequitur, frantic distortion, comedic overstatement, apparent obliviousness to patent senselessness of position, and free representation of controversial and contradicted speculation as fact -whether in support of eternal life or death religions- as the stuff of cultists of one kind or another.

The 'organic robot' paradigm of human decision making is now scientific orthodoxy, and there are no credible challenges to this (the best you've ever been able to come up with is 'Can Neuroscience Understand Donkey Kong'. So clearly you have difficulty accepting what is established by science if it goes against what you wish to be true. And telling that you would link my antinatalism with this. It seems as if you want to believe in meaningful 'free will' because the bleak and meaningless universe that I describe in my posts is the only alternative to free will universe.

You haven't been able to explain how individuals acting with free will could be distinguished from those acting without free will. In a universe without free will, would individuals not also act in accordance with their preferences and traits?

Sure, in your cockeyed cargo cult worship. In reality, it's something to think about and a starting point into further research.

And from the rest of your post, and additionally nearly all of yours on the board, your ability for rational conclusion is crippled, or you just don't mind appearing mentally bankrupt in support of your moral bankruptcy. It's positively laughable that you either keep overtly ignoring what goes on in our own heads, or try to pray it away with the mysterious ways of "it's just an illusion". And that you (pretend you?) can't see how one can easily conclude the evident from what they directly experience and given the positively embryonic (relatively) state of the science on the matter. Regardless of the wild-eyed ramblings of the goal-driven zealots. Sensible and straightforward, so of course you're comfortable with absurd statements, including projections of your own religious mania into it. Not to mention the childlike inferences of the form "That aibo does some things that looks like what we do, CHECKMATE fellow 'organic robots'. And the related shattered thinking of "We all have no actual control over anything as the molecules were set in motion from the beginning. Now I must double down to get you to change! Ha ha ha HA ha, ha ha ha HA ha, ha ha ha HA ha, hehehehehehehe!"

Not everybody needs the religiosity you do, and can go with what is presented and what is seen and lived until such time as something more persuasive is actually demonstrated. Not everybody has desperate needs for eternal life, or death for all so much that they grasp onto and butcher whatever they can get their disturbed hands on.

Can neuroscience understand Donkey Kong?