Jesus and free will

Jesus and free will Sept 7, 2017 14:15:21 GMT

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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 14:15:21 GMT

Sept 6, 2017 23:06:28 GMT cupcakes said:

^tpfkar

Sept 6, 2017 20:04:53 GMT @miccee said:

just because the parents feel that their own lives will be enriched by the addition of children

Or because they have empathy and experience and basic sense enough to know that kids can and with good parental support generally do have blasts, and can be guided to have lives that they thoroughly enjoy. Doesn't fit your morbid narrative though, so you'll just repeat-issue your same inane garbage on loop.

And of course pretense that there is some zero-sum karma where "atheists" having kids and taking care of them means that kids from wretched areas must be sacrificed in figurative volcanoes, or that "to fully protect from risk and harm" is even a reasonable goal, is just more grim comedy for the specicide dreams.

If true, then it is cute, cuddly, fuzzy and multicultural because Muslims are (mostly) brown. That takes precedence over any moral concern.

Yes, and I'm not denying the fact that many children have wonderful lives. But in order for those children to be born and to have those wonderful lives, the parents have to spin the roulette wheel, and inevitably that process is going to create some people who are very much not thankful for the 'opportunity to experience life'. So when you look at it this way; the cost of your existence is the poor miserable disabled wretch who has to spend his entire existence having other people change his soiled nappies and wipe his nose. And your answer to this conundrum? 'It's worth the suffering of those 'losers' because I'm having a great time, and they're the ones having to pay for my great time and not me.'

I'm not drawing any causal link between the pampered first world atheist and the Bangladeshi sweatshop worker; although the latter will spend his entire life being oppressed in order to make the existence of the former a little bit easier. But I suppose it's worth the suffering of the child slave in the Bangladeshi clothes factory so that you will be able to buy your own clothes cheaply, right?

If we're going to bring new life in to this world, then it should behoove us to ensure that it is going to be fair and safe for absolutely everyone before we do it, and that there are only winners and never losers. Otherwise, you are basically behaving like that despot from the Old Testament who you would undoubtedly criticise for being derelict in his duty of care.

Sounds to me like you made the right choice. I'm pretty sure the horribly scarred bitter broken and the morbid depressive misanthropes won't be the ones making things improve.

It's not going to be the "I'm in this for whatever is in it for me, and to hell with the collateral damage" brigade that makes things improve.