Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 0:54:38 GMT
tpfka
Sure you've repeat-chanted, but you're an admitted partisan fed by patent inanity who puts his morbid goals ahead of truth. People often get into temporary and/or treatable states where they say and do things that they subsequently highly regret. I know, I know, if in their manias they kill themselves, they can't regret. If a physically sound patient can't get the trivially accomplished once actually decided deed done without involving other people, then nobody has any business sending them to their doom.
The Christian God is worthy of criticism for purposely causing harm. If he's giving a shot at this blast and it's the best he can manage, and he's actually a sweetheart without all of the malice in the Bible, I'll personally buy him all the beer he can knock back. And nobody who is not deranged or making narcissistic scenes is "forced", regardless if you personally don't have the gonads.
I have already laid out a solution which would help to prevent suicide in those experiencing short-term crises, whilst respecting the wishes of those who have exhaustively tried all of the treatments that are available. You don't want to do anything about the very treatment resistant cases, and making people afraid to come forward about suicidal ideation causes them to be deprived of the treatment that could help them break out of that rut.
An individual cannot know whether they have made the wrong choice unless they regret it. Regret is the only way to assess that a bad decision has been made. When someone is born, they have no way of resisting or refusing, and therefore they are forced. And if they are suffering as a young child, they do not have a way of ending the suffering. If they are severely disabled, they must endure a lifetime sentence of suffering and indignity because medievalists such as yourself still get to codify their own existential fears into the laws that have to be obeyed.
And yet you keep citing it as your argument. And it is possible to hold deranged contradictory views, or at least you're able to post them as your own. Do you go debate with waterfalls? You supposedly can't even recognize that by your own beliefs you are fated by the Billiard Revelation (wait, who broke?) to feel urgency over things you have absolutely no ability to personally effect. If you found you an opium den, or if you lay down in front of a train, or if you managed to get control of a chemical weapons plant you'd still make absolutely no alteration to your god of preset Fate. Sad broken stuff.
I don't hold any contradictory views on the subject. Determinism is not the same thing as fatalism. Since I don't know what the future holds or what role my actions will play in the unfolding of that, then I cannot behave in any other way but that which is conducive to the eventual outcome. And of course whatever eventually happens must happen, could not have been avoided, and will be one link in a causal chain of events.