Post by CoolJGS☺ on Sept 26, 2017 13:31:29 GMT
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Not at all. It's questioning why the WT would make it permissible for a JW to violate God's law about blood if the secular law requires it, but on the other hand make it impermissible to do so when faced with other secular laws (preaching, military service). In other words, why shouldn't a JW think, "Why do WT leaders expect me to go prison rather than obey an order to join the army, but don't expect that parent to disobey that order about a blood transfusion?"Again, these are your terms no theirs. You are using one line while absolutely refusing to actually research. Why would I or they take your argument seriously considering how stubborn you're being?
Again, if they are violating God's law based on something forced on them, then how is it different when they are forced to do anything that stops them from doing Gods will? Are they supposed to just be killed since they don't allow suicide?
You also choose to ignore the notion that their stand has nothing to do with what the elders will do to them, but let's assume that you think they are all hypnotized and go with the faultiness of your initial argument...
They aren't forced to join the military. They have a choice between military service or jail or death.
Compare that to their options for blood transfusions. They won't let them die or save them by other options. If they go to prison, that would mean receiving the transfusion anyway. You aren't thinking this through...
So what makes you think they aren't doing that? This goes back to the law can knock a kid out and inject them with sweet tasty blood at any point in time.
Again, the parents have nothing to do with it. If the kid said she wanted a transfusions, they would have given it and the parents wouldn't have a defense in court in the first place.
So focus on the kid, since you are so attuned to JW's rules and regulations, and admit that you're saying the kid should just run away from JW home to JW home as a escaped convict to go ahead and complete the stupidity of your argument.
Not at all. It's questioning why the WT would make it permissible for a JW to violate God's law about blood if the secular law requires it, but on the other hand make it impermissible to do so when faced with other secular laws (preaching, military service). In other words, why shouldn't a JW think, "Why do WT leaders expect me to go prison rather than obey an order to join the army, but don't expect that parent to disobey that order about a blood transfusion?"
Again, if they are violating God's law based on something forced on them, then how is it different when they are forced to do anything that stops them from doing Gods will? Are they supposed to just be killed since they don't allow suicide?
You also choose to ignore the notion that their stand has nothing to do with what the elders will do to them, but let's assume that you think they are all hypnotized and go with the faultiness of your initial argument...
Then the same principle would have to apply when laws "force" JWs to do other things that violate God's law. Obeying a law to join the military or obeying a law banning preaching would likewise not be violations of God's law, since they have been "forced" by the law.
Compare that to their options for blood transfusions. They won't let them die or save them by other options. If they go to prison, that would mean receiving the transfusion anyway. You aren't thinking this through...
To be consistent with the WT's view on other matters, treat a transfusion the way they would treat (as in your example) a rape. Do everything in one's physical power to resist. A court order is not force. A court order still leaves the parent with the choice to disobey and face the penalties. That's what the WT expects of JWs in other areas.
Again, the parents have nothing to do with it. If the kid said she wanted a transfusions, they would have given it and the parents wouldn't have a defense in court in the first place.
So focus on the kid, since you are so attuned to JW's rules and regulations, and admit that you're saying the kid should just run away from JW home to JW home as a escaped convict to go ahead and complete the stupidity of your argument.