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Lamest MCU films Oct 1, 2017 4:54:27 GMT

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Post by harpospoke on Oct 1, 2017 4:54:27 GMT

Sept 27, 2017 19:01:46 GMT Salzmank said:

I've had people try to explain to me what "counts" and what doesn't, and I apologize for not understanding even still. They're all comic-book movies based on the same company's product, no? I understand there's that "shared universe" (a concept I don't like, as I've written elsewhere recently), but I don't understand why some "count," despite not showing up with some other character (yet?), and some don't. But I am a layman in this regard, as you say, who tries to give an honest opinion.

The reason is behind the "blame" thing that fans try to assign. The characters Fox and Sony have are indeed Marvel characters, but Marvel didn't get to make creative decisions about those characters with the movies until recently with Spidey and Sony. So it's hardly on Marvel when a horrible X-men or FF movie is released by Fox.

Fox has mostly been a disaster with X-men and Fantastic Four. They've somehow managed to screw up these legendary characters:

Dr Doom (twice)
Cyclops
Storm
Rogue
Silver Surfer
Dark Phoenix
Colossus
Deadpool (since repaired by the movie Fox didn't care about)
Galactus
Sue Storm
Angel
Kitty Pryde
Mystique

Pretty much a train wreck with a few good/decent films sprinkled in to the mix occasionally. (Give them credit for Logan and X2) They are the only studio of the big 4 releasing SH films that failed to get a single movie above 250 million in the US. The one that broke out big was the one they didn't care about and let other people control....Deadpool. Now that Fox cares about DP...look for DP2 to have serious issues.

You can see the difference when even the DC fan admits there is a difference in this very thread.

Sept 28, 2017 1:19:58 GMT DC-Fan said:

No need to apologize. It's just common sense that all comic-book movies based on the same company's product should be part of the same "shared cinematic universe" and not spread out among 3 different "cinematic universes". I've said many times before (and have been viciously attacked by MCU fans for saying this) that MCU doesn't even have all of the comic-book movies based on Marvel's own product (Marvel comics), then it's not really a "shared cinematic universe". At best, it's only a sub-universe since their characters are just a subset of Marvel's products (Marvel comics).

It's like a coin collection or a stamp collection of the 50 states or of all the US Presidents. If your collection is missing 2 states or 2 Presidents, then you're collection is incomplete and isn't worth as much as a collection that contains all 50 states or all US Presidents.

That's why MCU fans want DECU and Fantastic Four and X-Men movies to fail. Because DCEU is an true "shared cinematic universe" and because the Fantastic Four and the X-Men are preventing MCU from having a true "shared cinematic universe".

As you can see he knows very well there is a big difference in a Marvel studio movie and movies produced by Fox. They aren't the same category at all.

There is no way Marvel would have done a "Wolverine and Friends" series of X-movies that almost totally ignore legendary characters like Cyclops and Storm.

So by all means list all the lame Fox movies...they've earned that type of mocking for many years.