Post by Toasted Cheese on Oct 5, 2017 14:06:46 GMT
The distinction between the different types of atheism is a phony belief and DOES NOT EXIST, so of course it lacks any sort of contingency. Whatever pretentious nonsense you mean by that. It is all in your mind sunshine.
You could argue that the conceptual distinction being made doesn't hold water or isn't coherent or something like that, but then you should actually explain why it doesn't hold water in your opinion, or why you consider it to be incoherent.
Personally, I think that the conceptual distinction makes sense, but I'd agree that there are some serious problems with the way the distinction is presented on Wikipedia. I won't get into the technical aspects of that unless someone is really interested in a conversation about it. But the distinction at least makes sense on the "negative" side at least with regard to people having no religious beliefs about deities where they've not even encountered those beliefs enough to give it much thought, and perhaps where someone has encountered the beliefs but manages to remain indifferent towards them.
*The only issue there would be if you're using "exist" in a more restricted way to refer to extramental things only.
Neither does filmflaneur.
So a concept about a belief, or a lack of a belief is tangible and objective then?
Most of the comments I am reading here, are only what posters think they think they know, due to knowledge amassed, pretentious and conceited attempts to find meaning—which doesn't even exist—and what is only believed to be logic or truth. None of these beliefs are even real.
All beliefs are born out of the subjective mindset and are just thought, just like the belief in God or religious deities, or lack of belief in God or religious deities. The belief and\or concept does not exist, only in the mind of the one who believes something to be true. All there is at the end of the day, is the wholeness, oneness and completeness of being. There is no compromise here, no matter how one may choose to swing it, or what excuses or denials are made up. There is no negative or positive belief, regarding the belief of what an atheist is supposed to represent. It just comes down to a belief pronto, and one that is disconnected from the whole truth.