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Post by cupcakes on Oct 10, 2017 10:12:29 GMT
tpfkar Another patently incoherent position of yours. If a fetus has consent then it's termination is subject to said consent. If a fetus has no consent (which is rational morality and law), then your raising of consent is of course moot. The foetus becomes a future person who may be experiencing suffering which was imposed upon them before they had the power of consent. The fact that someone doesn't exist yet is not rational justification for ignoring the welfare of the future individual and how they might feel about the decision that was made unilaterally on their behalf. And the parents can do everything right with regards to taking care of their child's material needs, and do everything within their power to ensure that their emotional needs are taken care of...and yet their child still has a wretched life that is an imposition on them. And even allowing for the preposterous presumption that suicide is easy once you get to a certain point, you've still burdened them with tremendous inconvenience before they get to the stage of determining that suicide is the solution, and the pain and suffering of wrestling with that decision, then the pain, fear and anguish of actually going through with it. Absolutely, so they need to get consent before they can decide. The fact of yesterdays tomorrows being what today's yesterdays determine are imposed by they nonexistent future possibly not but oh my god everybody must die is more rational than your vapor can't give consent so too bad. But in fact, the evidence that the vast majority of people would resolutely prefer to be given this chance to enjoy this blast of an existence upends and overruns your morbid pessimism. It's not an imposition, it's a great gift of an opportunity that they can decide what to do with once they reach a state that includes the ability of consent. If they are wrestling with it then they in fact have desires for it.  In any case, according to your beliefs they are simply organic robots with no actual choice following a player piano tape, so not only are their existences unstoppable and unalterable from what was set at the outset, they aren't really sentient at all, just "convincingly" (to what?) simulating it.
On that note, you've also called me "deranged", which is the mental illness equivalent of "n*****" |
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