Did God invent circumcision to take sexual pleasure away?

Did God invent circumcision to take sexual pleasure away? Oct 12, 2017 13:51:30 GMT

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Post by captainbryce on Oct 12, 2017 13:51:30 GMT

Oct 12, 2017 12:01:55 GMT FilmFlaneur said:

Oct 11, 2017 20:10:32 GMT captainbryce said:

And EACH OTHER, which validates my point!

While I appreciate what you are saying, and would want to say it, I doubt whether one could find any Christian, of any hue, who would claim their faith teaches nothing, 'clearly', or not.

I doubt you’ll find any Klansman who would claim that their philosophy teaches anything immoral. But you can’t depends on the subjects of the practice to render an honest appraisal of it. When I was a Christian (which was very recently), I would have agreed with you that Christianity was “clear”. Now that I no longer have the blinders on, I can see what’s clear and what isn’t (as any objective person should be able to do).

Christianity” is such a broad and unspecific term, that it means different things to different people, to the point where it (collectively) “teaches” things that contradict itself. So to declare what Christianity teaches is almost meaningless since Christians can’t even agree to that.

Again I can see what you are trying to say (that any teaching, when interpreted differently and which appears to contradict itself as espoused by various competing camps) might be invalidated. However, apparently contradictory interpretations do not mean that something is necessarily invalid, merely confused or distorted by the human arrogance, mistakes, and pride of the faithful. There is also no reason either why some person insisting what Christianity teaches must be wrong, just because his or her view is gainsaid, or repudiated by other followers. Of course, there is no reason why all could be wrong too, and in fact one might reasonably think that the most important truth of reality would be easier to agree on, (and evidence, come to that) than it often proves.

Whether an interpretation is wrong or right is irrelevant. The fact that different interpretations exist proves my point of how it is “unclear”. I no longer quibble over what is correct and what isn’t because that is pointless.

FF: But, er, if you have just claimed, firmly, that Christianity really doesn't state anything,

CB: No I didn’t. You have just firmly created a straw man argument. Go back and read what I actually wrote (quote it if you need to), without making your own edits to add or remove emphasis on selected words. You’ll find that I said something very different than what you just claimed.

So was it not you at all who said: "Christianity doesn’t “clearly” state ANYTHING.... If “Christianity” was clear on anything, it’s that IT doesn’t actually say anything [my emphasis]" then?

See, now you quoted correctly!

the degree to which you are capable of comprehending seems questionable at this point in time since you decided to change the meaning of what I wrote..

See above. Also, a mild ad hominem , is still a personal attack and not an answer. But you have been told this before.

Don’t blame me because you used a straw man argument. Don’t attribute statements to me that I didn’t make, or try to change the meaning of what I say next time.