Did God invent circumcision to take sexual pleasure away?

Did God invent circumcision to take sexual pleasure away? Oct 12, 2017 15:13:40 GMT

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Post by FilmFlaneur on Oct 12, 2017 15:13:40 GMT

Oct 12, 2017 13:51:30 GMT captainbryce said:

I doubt you’ll find any Klansman who would claim that their philosophy teaches anything immoral. But you can’t depends on the subjects of the practice to render an honest appraisal of it. When I was a Christian (which was very recently), I would have agreed with you that Christianity was “clear”. Now that I no longer have the blinders on, I can see what’s clear and what isn’t (as any objective person should be able to do).

This does not effect my point that no Christian is likely to say that their religion 'teaches nothing'. Incidentally as far as subjects of a practice not rendering an honest opinion of their belief system goes, I would argue the opposite: that it is best to ask those who profess something first as to what they mean, at least before substituting one's own preferred interpretation, as it is reasonable to presume that they would likely know best. In the case of the Klansman, one can see, yes, that they unlikely to see their practices and beliefs as sometimes reprehensible. But that blindness it is not the same as he or her being able to articulate what their creed teaches, only perhaps being wrong, or deluded about KKK's (moral) worth. And if one believes (as I do) that morality is ultimately subjective, anyway...

Whether an interpretation is wrong or right is irrelevant. The fact that different interpretations exist proves my point of how it is “unclear”. I no longer quibble over what is correct and what isn’t because that is pointless.

In which case if one accepts this view then most significant things we experience in life - even some scientific questions - being unclear, or inviting different opinions, are 'not worth quibbling ove'r. This board would be very quiet indeed. However it may observed the quibbling is very often creates the interest, the sense and, sometimes, the way forward.

FF: So was it not you at all who said: "Christianity doesn’t “clearly” state ANYTHING.... If “Christianity” was clear on anything, it’s that IT doesn’t actually say anything [my emphasis]" then?

Captain: See, now you quoted correctly! Don’t attribute statements to me that I didn’t make, or try to change the meaning of what I say next time.

Er.. OK. Got it now lol. Christianity does not clearly state anything, and it doesn't actually say anything. QED.

Don’t blame me because you used a straw man argument.

But you have just acknowledged this is what you said! Again: "Christianity doesn’t “clearly” state ANYTHING... If it was clear ...[Christianity] doesn’t actually say anything" LOL

How otherwise would one read your words? Does Christianity really say anything or not, clear or otherwise? One notes also that the converse (i.e that 'if Christianity was unclear on anything it would be that it says something) doesn't really help you much, either.