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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 22:40:32 GMT
which is better?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 25, 2018 22:51:00 GMT
Snooker is in theory, though I've yet to have as fun a time with it.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 25, 2018 22:52:42 GMT
Better to play or better to watch? Better or tougher? What kind of pool, 8-Ball, 9-Ball, Straight?
Snooker is tougher to master. You have to have much better cue control to be any good at snooker than even straight pool. But it, like any other "safety game" can be excruciating to watch.
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 25, 2018 22:53:20 GMT
I enjoy playing pool more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 23:06:28 GMT
To play, I love both, but it's the difference between tennis and badminton. One is easy one is hard. Snooker is obviously a lot tougher and a lot more frustrating, but it is much more satisfying when you get good at it, you have to do a lot of practice drills to get good though (this didn't sink in for me till it was too late), as there is so much more distance with a lot of the shots you'll need to play than on a pool table, you need the muscle memory really of potting hundreds of reds around the black ball, which is difficult to ingrain if you are just diving straight into games with your mates, as I often did when I was a kid.
Pool is much more fun for beginners (and me too admittedly a lot of the time), as your improvement will feel a lot more rapid without having to do drills.
To watch, snooker all day long.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 23:22:46 GMT
Better to play or better to watch? Better or tougher? What kind of pool, 8-Ball, 9-Ball, Straight? Snooker is tougher to master. You have to have much better cue control to be any good at snooker than even straight pool. But it, like any other "safety game" can be excruciating to watch.
Yeah, can do if it is a game no one cares about and turns into a scrappy game. I don't mind it too much though. Nothing beats the tension though on a snooker table when the deciding frame gets a bit scrappy, the tension is getting to both players, and they start missing "easy" shots. You don't really get that tension on a pool table very often, because for a pro, most shots in the open are almost unmissable. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 25, 2018 23:38:47 GMT
Better to play or better to watch? Better or tougher? What kind of pool, 8-Ball, 9-Ball, Straight? Snooker is tougher to master. You have to have much better cue control to be any good at snooker than even straight pool. But it, like any other "safety game" can be excruciating to watch.
Yeah, can do if it is a game no one cares about and turns into a scrappy game. I don't mind it too much though. Nothing beats the tension though on a snooker table when the deciding frame gets a bit scrappy, the tension is getting to both players, and they start missing "easy" shots. You don't really get that tension on a pool table very often, because for a pro, most shots in the open are almost unmissable. Most Americans play 8-ball or 9-ball. You play in either game rooms or bars when you can't have games with lots of defense. And they're played on smaller tables. I learned on a regulation table, playing 14:1 straight pool. I got a snooker table 5 years ago. So I took to snooker better than most. I'd die happy if I could ever get a 147 but I won't live long enough. I'd settle for a 100 break. Had a couple 70's. Snooker is in a league with straight pool. 8 and 9 ball are games for the kiddies. Seen film of lots of players, from Willie Mosconi through the years. Compared to Ronnie O'Sullivan, they are all bumbling nincompoops. Without a doubt, he's the best I've ever seen with a cue in his hand. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 0:13:12 GMT
Yeah, can do if it is a game no one cares about and turns into a scrappy game. I don't mind it too much though. Nothing beats the tension though on a snooker table when the deciding frame gets a bit scrappy, the tension is getting to both players, and they start missing "easy" shots. You don't really get that tension on a pool table very often, because for a pro, most shots in the open are almost unmissable. Most Americans play 8-ball or 9-ball. You play in either game rooms or bars when you can't have games with lots of defense. And they're played on smaller tables. I learned on a regulation table, playing 14:1 straight pool. I got a snooker table 5 years ago. So I took to snooker better than most. I'd die happy if I could ever get a 147 but I won't live long enough. I'd settle for a 100 break. Had a couple 70's. Snooker is in a league with straight pool. 8 and 9 ball are games for the kiddies. Seen film of lots of players, from Willie Mosconi through the years. Compared to Ronnie O'Sullivan, they are all bumbling nincompoops. Without a doubt, he's the best I've ever seen with a cue in his hand. Yeah, Ronnie is the best I've ever seen (at snooker). I remember when he first came on the scene in the mid-90s, used to watch him on TV, and never seen anyone make snooker look so easy (mind you, it still took him years after that to win his first world title), then I'd ring up a mate who was also watching on TV and we'd go down the snooker hall thinking "it doesn't look as hard as I remember", then getting a rude awakening when we missed the first three easy reds and countless blacks off its spot. Only started getting semi-decent when me a friend started doing drills, we'd ask for 2 cue balls, one would take one end of the table, the other the other half, just practising, and finally got my first 50 break a while after we started doing that. Makes the world of difference when you constantly potting balls in drills, one after the other, instead of just starting a match every time where you just get frustrated very quickly. Wish I'd realised that when I first started playing. Very jealous you have a snooker table, I think I remember you saying before, a lot of club players hit a wall when they hit their first few 70s, never got a 100 either, doubt I ever will now as haven't played in a few years, but on TV they do play on super fine heated cloths, so they don't have to put so much into the cue ball to get the same reaction, although the pockets are tighter on TV than most normal club tables. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 26, 2018 0:24:18 GMT
Most Americans play 8-ball or 9-ball. You play in either game rooms or bars when you can't have games with lots of defense. And they're played on smaller tables. I learned on a regulation table, playing 14:1 straight pool. I got a snooker table 5 years ago. So I took to snooker better than most. I'd die happy if I could ever get a 147 but I won't live long enough. I'd settle for a 100 break. Had a couple 70's. Snooker is in a league with straight pool. 8 and 9 ball are games for the kiddies. Seen film of lots of players, from Willie Mosconi through the years. Compared to Ronnie O'Sullivan, they are all bumbling nincompoops. Without a doubt, he's the best I've ever seen with a cue in his hand. Yeah, Ronnie is the best I've ever seen (at snooker). I remember when he first came on the scene in the mid-90s, used to watch him on TV, and never seen anyone make snooker look so easy (mind you, it still took him years after that to win his first world title), then I'd ring up a mate who was also watching on TV and we'd go down the snooker hall thinking "it doesn't look as hard as I remember", then getting a rude awakening when we missed the first three easy reds and countless blacks off its spot. Only started getting semi-decent when me a friend started doing drills, we'd ask for 2 cue balls, one would take one end of the table, the other the other half, just practising, and finally got my first 50 break a while after we started doing that. Makes the world of difference when you constantly potting balls in drills, one after the other, instead of just starting a match every time where you just get frustrated very quickly. Wish I'd realised that when I first started playing. Very jealous you have a snooker table, I think I remember you saying before, a lot of club players hit a wall when they hit their first few 70s, never got a 100 either, doubt I ever will now as haven't played in a few years, but on TV they do play on super fine heated cloths, so they don't have to put so much into the cue ball to get the same reaction, although the pockets are tighter on TV than most normal club tables. When I was 11, a drunk driver hit me and busted most on my lower body. Had to learn to walk again. I learned to walk using a cue instead of a cane. A cue an a pool table were the best rehab devices. So I played six or seven hours of pool a day. I still try and shoot at least a half an hour a day. I got fascinated with snooker by seeing O'Sullivan on YouTube. And my wife bought me a snooker table for Christmas. Goes along with my regulation pool table and my bar table. I'll never take up billiards though. Have to draw the line somewhere. This is what got me into snooker. that's so damned ridiculous. Willie Mosconi ran 536 balls in a row in a straight pool competition. That 36 racks. 36!. But there's no video on that. If O'Sullivan put the cue ball down by hand he couldn't have played better position. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 26, 2018 0:27:28 GMT
Snooker.
Pool bores the arse off me. Almost as dulll as poker!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 0:42:57 GMT
Yeah, Ronnie is the best I've ever seen (at snooker). I remember when he first came on the scene in the mid-90s, used to watch him on TV, and never seen anyone make snooker look so easy (mind you, it still took him years after that to win his first world title), then I'd ring up a mate who was also watching on TV and we'd go down the snooker hall thinking "it doesn't look as hard as I remember", then getting a rude awakening when we missed the first three easy reds and countless blacks off its spot. Only started getting semi-decent when me a friend started doing drills, we'd ask for 2 cue balls, one would take one end of the table, the other the other half, just practising, and finally got my first 50 break a while after we started doing that. Makes the world of difference when you constantly potting balls in drills, one after the other, instead of just starting a match every time where you just get frustrated very quickly. Wish I'd realised that when I first started playing. Very jealous you have a snooker table, I think I remember you saying before, a lot of club players hit a wall when they hit their first few 70s, never got a 100 either, doubt I ever will now as haven't played in a few years, but on TV they do play on super fine heated cloths, so they don't have to put so much into the cue ball to get the same reaction, although the pockets are tighter on TV than most normal club tables. When I was 11, a drunk driver hit me and busted most on my lower body. Had to learn to walk again. I learned to walk using a cue instead of a cane. A cue an a pool table were the best rehab devices. So I played six or seven hours of pool a day. I still try and shoot at least a half an hour a day. I got fascinated with snooker by seeing O'Sullivan on YouTube. And my wife bought me a snooker table for Christmas. Goes along with my regulation pool table and my bar table. I'll never take up billiards though. Have to draw the line somewhere. This is what got me into snooker. that's so damned ridiculous. Willie Mosconi ran 536 balls in a row in a straight pool competition. That 36 racks. 36!. But there's no video on that. If O'Sullivan put the cue ball down by hand he couldn't have played better position. I never get tired of watching that! Ronnie became a much better match player years later, but I don't think he's ever looked quite as sensational as he did during those years. Sadly a lot of the footage isn't on youtube. Here's another break from around that time you might enjoy, if you haven't already seen it. As you say, it's just ridiculous! |
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Post by weststigersbob on Apr 26, 2018 5:38:48 GMT
Snooker - but by a hair. I still love watching pool - especially some of the ‘trick shots’ you simply don’t see in Snooker. I’ve seen both O’Sullivan and Davis playing pool, and you can see the Snooker instinct and mindframe. Earl Strickland for example, though “thinks” 9 ball pool. I love watching a classy safety battle between 2 very good players in Snooker. What I always laugh at though is when the commentators almost always say something like “oooh he’s made a mistake there” and he’s maybe a 1/16 of a ball off on a shot that is 20 feet and 2 cushions. I’d be lucky to get within the general vicinity of the shot, and unless he leaves a simple straightforward pot, it isn’t a ‘mistake’
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 9:03:22 GMT
Snooker - but by a hair. I still love watching pool - especially some of the ‘trick shots’ you simply don’t see in Snooker. I’ve seen both O’Sullivan and Davis playing pool, and you can see the Snooker instinct and mindframe. Earl Strickland for example, though “thinks” 9 ball pool. I love watching a classy safety battle between 2 very good players in Snooker. What I always laugh at though is when the commentators almost always say something like “oooh he’s made a mistake there” and he’s maybe a 1/16 of a ball off on a shot that is 20 feet and 2 cushions. I’d be lucky to get within the general vicinity of the shot, and unless he leaves a simple straightforward pot, it isn’t a ‘mistake’ I think my favourite pool match I've ever watched was Earl Strickland v Steve Davis at the World 9 ball Championships. Davis was already past his prime on a snooker table by this time (although he was still occasionally competitive against the best), I was rooting for him, and then you had Strickland, the pantomime villain, who was barracking the crowd, and the crowd were heckling him, and I think it is the only time I've truly got into a game on TV. Think it was on a Friday or Saturday night, and my girlfriend came round and we were supposed to be going out, she was in ear the whole time saying "can we go now?"and I was like "I can't leave this match, it's almost finished", and she was "you are joking? you said you don't even like watching pool". She just didn't get it! I'm not sure if it is as good on re-watch as it felt live, but I enjoyed it at the time anyway www.youtube.com/watch?v=63cpzcKAvdEAs much as I disliked Earl Strickland, he was always entertaining. They ruined the Mosconi Cup though by changing the rules, so that only top ranked pool players could play, which effectively meant the snooker players could no longer take part, except Tony Drago who had switched to pool. I only liked watching it to see how the snooker players were getting on. |
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Post by Father Jack on Apr 26, 2018 9:34:39 GMT
They both suck.
Bar billiards is the Don💃
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 9:42:43 GMT
They both suck. Bar billiards is the Don💃 Very bizarre game! Quite good fun actually for half an hour or an hour, but I think I'd get bored of it pretty quick. I reckon the only reason it exists is for pubs that don't even have room for a UK 8 ball table. |
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Post by MrFurious on Apr 26, 2018 10:32:19 GMT
Haven't watched snooker since the 90's, those depressing days when Hendry used to beat J White every year.  And amazingly our Ken won a WC in between those finals. I remember that night of Dennis Taylor and the black. I remember going on a skool tour to Cashel and finding a shop that sold Panini? Snooker cards, it was a dream come true. Having a Silvino Francisco sticker, and especially when we had a mental Lada owning teacher that was the image of him. So many snooker loving memories flooding back now. Wasn't a fan of that Snooker Loopy song though |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 10:47:31 GMT
Haven't watched snooker since the 90's, those depressing days when Hendry used to beat J White every year. And amazingly our Ken won a WC in between those finals. I remember that night of Dennis Taylor and the black. I remember going on a skool tour to Cashel and finding a shop that sold Panini? Snooker cards, it was a dream come true. Having a Silvino Francisco sticker, and especially when we had a mental Lada owning teacher that was the image of him. So many snooker loving memories flooding back now. Wasn't a fan of that Snooker Loopy song though Loved Jimmy White, hated Hendry. Still a tragedy to me that he lost every world final (6 of the bloody things, c'mon, could you not have won at least one? Jesus). I think Steve Davis won a Lada when he hit the first televised 147, as they were the sponsors of the event he was playing in. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 10:50:27 GMT
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Post by weststigersbob on Apr 26, 2018 15:54:05 GMT
On this thread, I figured I’d also show my appreciation of Ronnie O’Sullivan - the purest cue sports player I’ve ever seen. The final red in this break is simply breathtaking. It’s a fantastic shot at the best of times, but off handed, a final red in a 147 attempt ? No words....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 16:21:20 GMT
On this thread, I figured I’d also show my appreciation of Ronnie O’Sullivan - the purest cue sports player I’ve ever seen. The final red in this break is simply breathtaking. It’s a fantastic shot at the best of times, but off handed, a final red in a 147 attempt ? No words.... I remember when he first played left handed, he was thrashing Alain Robideaux (sp?) in the first round of the World Championships around 95ish, and started playing some of his shots left handed towards the end. Robideaux, a veteran, didn't take too kindly to this, and called him a lousy winner who has no respect, as he thought Ronnie was taking the piss out of him. I have to admit I was with Robideaux on this, until I saw how good he actually was left-handed, just jaw dropping, he's almost as good left handed as he is with his right and I thought "is there anything this guy can't do?". It probably prompted almost every casual and serious pool and snooker player in the country to try and play "wrong handed". |
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