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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 29, 2018 17:57:24 GMT
Doctor Strange: "There are 14 million ways this could go but only 1 of them is a winning scenario for us. Yes, I know what is the 1 winning scenario for us out of 14 million scenarios. But I'm not going to tell you, Tony Stark, or anyone else what that winning scenario is. Instead, I'm just going to disintegrate into dust and take my knowledge of that 1 winning scenario out of 14 million as a secret to the grave and let half the universe die. Good luck beating Thanos on your own!"
This is why I give low ratings to MCU movies. The writing is just so awful.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Apr 29, 2018 18:13:12 GMT
itβs no Larry Crowne.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 18:15:50 GMT
Question.
I know nothing about comic books.
Was there ever a 'cross over' where Marvel characters met DC characters?
Like every fanboys dream so to speak?
Kind of like old school wrestling where WWF fans wondered what it would have been like to war with NWA wrestlers? Or Superclash - i.e. AWA vs. NWA?
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 29, 2018 18:27:12 GMT
Question. I know nothing about comic books. Was there ever a 'cross over' where Marvel characters met DC characters? Like every fanboys dream so to speak? Kind of like old school wrestling where WWF fans wondered what it would have been like to war with NWA wrestlers? Or Superclash - i.e. AWA vs. NWA? Yes, the 1st crossover comic was in 1976: Superman vs. The Amazing Spider-Man. That was followed with another crossover comic in 1981: Superman and Spider-Man. This is when Superman and Hulk fight for the 1st time ever. Superman knew the Hulk couldn't beat him so Superman just stood there like a statue and let Hulk punch him, but none of Hulk's punches had any effect on Superman and Hulk's punches couldn't even move Superman 1 inch. It was like Hulk was hitting Superman with a pillow. Finally, Hulk got tired and turned back into Bruce Banner. So that answered the question that many people had wondered about - who would win a fight between Superman and Hulk. Since then, there have been many more crossover comics.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 29, 2018 18:34:38 GMT
Question. I know nothing about comic books. Was there ever a 'cross over' where Marvel characters met DC characters? Like every fanboys dream so to speak? Kind of like old school wrestling where WWF fans wondered what it would have been like to war with NWA wrestlers? Or Superclash - i.e. AWA vs. NWA? Yes, the 1st crossover comic was in 1976: Superman vs. The Amazing Spider-Man. That was followed with another crossover comic in 1981: Superman and Spider-Man. This is when Superman and Hulk fight for the 1st time ever. Superman knew the Hulk couldn't beat him so Superman just stood there like a statue and let Hulk punch him, but none of Hulk's punches had any effect on Superman and Hulk's punches couldn't even move Superman 1 inch. It was like Hulk was hitting Superman with a pillow. Finally, Hulk got tired and turned back into Bruce Banner. So that answered the question that many people had wondered about - who would win a fight between Superman and Hulk. Since then, there have been many more crossover comics. That would make a great movie! LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 18:42:19 GMT
Question. I know nothing about comic books. Was there ever a 'cross over' where Marvel characters met DC characters? Like every fanboys dream so to speak? Kind of like old school wrestling where WWF fans wondered what it would have been like to war with NWA wrestlers? Or Superclash - i.e. AWA vs. NWA? Yes, the 1st crossover comic was in 1976: Superman vs. The Amazing Spider-Man. That was followed with another crossover comic in 1981: Superman and Spider-Man. This is when Superman and Hulk fight for the 1st time ever. Superman knew the Hulk couldn't beat him so Superman just stood there like a statue and let Hulk punch him, but none of Hulk's punches had any effect on Superman and Hulk's punches couldn't even move Superman 1 inch. It was like Hulk was hitting Superman with a pillow. Finally, Hulk got tired and turned back into Bruce Banner. So that answered the question that many people had wondered about - who would win a fight between Superman and Hulk. Since then, there have been many more crossover comics. interesting. so i'm guessing a deal was in place where DC and Marvel split the profits.... think a movie down the line is in store - i.e. Marvel vs. DC? and who would win? who are the major players on each side?
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 29, 2018 19:38:16 GMT
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!
He does sacrifice his stone and thus let many of the Avengers "die". Earlier in the movie he says he wouldn't give it up. Since this movie has a part 2 my guess is that one way had him giving up the stone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 19:41:45 GMT
SPOILERS!!!!!!!! He does sacrifice his stone and thus let many of the Avengers "die". Earlier in the movie he says he wouldn't give it up. Since this movie has a part 2 my guess is that one way had him giving up the stone. im not a comic book fan but i love horror movies who are the 'avengers'? and could any of them beat the following? predator alien frankenstein dracula the wolf man king kong godzilla freddy jason michael myers leatherface
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 29, 2018 19:44:17 GMT
SPOILERS!!!!!!!! He does sacrifice his stone and thus let many of the Avengers "die". Earlier in the movie he says he wouldn't give it up. Since this movie has a part 2 my guess is that one way had him giving up the stone. im not a comic book fan but i love horror movies who are the 'avengers'? and could any of them beat the following? predator alien frankenstein dracula the wolf man king kong godzilla freddy jason michael myers leatherface It all depends on who is writing the story. A wise man once said that, Stan Lee.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 19:51:04 GMT
im not a comic book fan but i love horror movies who are the 'avengers'? and could any of them beat the following? predator alien frankenstein dracula the wolf man king kong godzilla freddy jason michael myers leatherface It all depends on who is writing the story. A wise man once said that, Stan Lee. Who's Stan Lee?
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 29, 2018 19:52:10 GMT
It all depends on who is writing the story. A wise man once said that, Stan Lee. Who's Stan Lee? The creator of many of the Marvel characters.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Apr 29, 2018 20:00:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 20:03:42 GMT
The creator of many of the Marvel characters. i don't get the love for his 'dracula' - i thought it pailed in comparison to Bela Lugosi's.....
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 29, 2018 21:06:02 GMT
SPOILERS!!!!!!!! He does sacrifice his stone and thus let many of the Avengers "die". Earlier in the movie he says he wouldn't give it up. Since this movie has a part 2 my guess is that one way had him giving up the stone. That makes no sense at all. If the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million possible scenarios was giving up the time stone to Thanos, then why not just immediately give the time stone to Thanos when they first see Thanos? Why go through the fight and try to get the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and have Thanos stab Stark before giving up the time stone to Thanos? What if Starlord hadn't acted like such a dick and they had succeeded in getting the gauntlet off Thanos' hand before Strange could give up the time stone to Thanos? Would that have resulted in 1 of the other 14 million losing scenarios? If so, then why go through all that risk of a possible losing scenario instead of just immediately giving up the time stone to Thanos when they first see Thanos? Like I said, that's just really awful writing. But MCU movies are famous for really awful writing. For example: Zemo in Civil War: "The Avengers killed my family. Even though I know all of their identities, I'm not going to get my revenge by going after their families and loved ones like a normal, logical person would do. Instead, I'm going to track down the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago that only 1 other person in the whole world even knows exists. But after I track down the only copy of that 25-year-old videotape, I'm not going to simply upload it to the Internet for the whole world to see that Bucky killed Tony Stark's parents. Instead, I'm going to wait for Bucky, Cap, and Iron Man to all show up at the same remote base in Siberia at the same time (which I know will happen because I read that in the script) even though Bucky and Cap had a head start of several hours so that they all can view the videotape together. I know that's the most convoluted and insane scheme in movie history, but I know it's going to work because I read it in the script."
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Apr 29, 2018 21:17:09 GMT
SPOILERS!!!!!!!! He does sacrifice his stone and thus let many of the Avengers "die". Earlier in the movie he says he wouldn't give it up. Since this movie has a part 2 my guess is that one way had him giving up the stone. That makes no sense at all. If the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million possible scenarios was giving up the time stone to Thanos, then why not just immediately give the time stone to Thanos when they first see Thanos? Why go through the fight and try to get the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and have Thanos stab Stark before giving up the time stone to Thanos? What if Starlord hadn't acted like such a dick and they had succeeded in getting the gauntlet off Thanos' hand before Strange could give up the time stone to Thanos? Would that have resulted in 1 of the other 14 million losing scenarios? If so, then why go through all that risk of a possible losing scenario instead of just immediately giving up the time stone to Thanos when they first see Thanos? Like I said, that's just really awful writing. But MCU movies are famous for really awful writing. For example: Zemo in Civil War: "The Avengers killed my family. Even though I know all of their identities, I'm not going to get my revenge by going after their families and loved ones like a normal, logical person would do. Instead, I'm going to track down the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago that only 1 other person in the whole world even knows exists. But after I track down the only copy of that 25-year-old videotape, I'm not going to simply upload it to the Internet for the whole world to see that Bucky killed Tony Stark's parents. Instead, I'm going to wait for Bucky, Cap, and Iron Man to all show up at the same remote base in Siberia at the same time (which I know will happen because I read that in the script) even though Bucky and Cap had a head start of several hours so that they all can view the videotape together. I know that's the most convoluted and insane scheme in movie history, but I know it's going to work because I read it in the script." No, you just dont seem to care about what will happen. Remember, Strange said he wouldn't just give it up. So, giving it away before the fight probably doesn't fit what he saw. We dont know why just yet. Part 2 will have to explain it further.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 21:21:27 GMT
Fuck me are we doing this shit again?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Apr 29, 2018 23:13:32 GMT
Isnβt it entirely possible that DC and Marvel Movies, with a few exceptions, both suck?
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 30, 2018 12:34:16 GMT
SPOILERS!!!!!!!! He does sacrifice his stone and thus let many of the Avengers "die". Earlier in the movie he says he wouldn't give it up. Since this movie has a part 2 my guess is that one way had him giving up the stone. That makes no sense at all. If the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million possible scenarios was giving up the time stone to Thanos, then why not just immediately give the time stone to Thanos when they first see Thanos? Why go through the fight and try to get the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and have Thanos stab Stark before giving up the time stone to Thanos? What if Starlord hadn't acted like such a dick and they had succeeded in getting the gauntlet off Thanos' hand before Strange could give up the time stone to Thanos? Would that have resulted in 1 of the other 14 million losing scenarios? If so, then why go through all that risk of a possible losing scenario instead of just immediately giving up the time stone to Thanos when they first see Thanos? Like I said, that's just really awful writing. But MCU movies are famous for really awful writing. For example: Zemo in Civil War: "The Avengers killed my family. Even though I know all of their identities, I'm not going to get my revenge by going after their families and loved ones like a normal, logical person would do. Instead, I'm going to track down the only copy of a videotape from 25 years ago that only 1 other person in the whole world even knows exists. But after I track down the only copy of that 25-year-old videotape, I'm not going to simply upload it to the Internet for the whole world to see that Bucky killed Tony Stark's parents. Instead, I'm going to wait for Bucky, Cap, and Iron Man to all show up at the same remote base in Siberia at the same time (which I know will happen because I read that in the script) even though Bucky and Cap had a head start of several hours so that they all can view the videotape together. I know that's the most convoluted and insane scheme in movie history, but I know it's going to work because I read it in the script." You are so sad and pathetic. Infinity War was better than every DCEU movie put together. Seriously. It is the highest grossing movie of all time. It made more money in one weekend than Justice League made total. Give up. The DCEU is terrible. This is part one of two. Everything was not explained. Maybe he did tell them how to stop Thanos in many of those scenarios and it did not work. Maybe he gave up the stone earlier and it did not work. Maybe sacrificing himself to save Tony was the only way.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Apr 30, 2018 13:57:07 GMT
SAVE MARTHA!
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 30, 2018 19:45:26 GMT
Yes, the 1st crossover comic was in 1976: Superman vs. The Amazing Spider-Man. That was followed with another crossover comic in 1981: Superman and Spider-Man. This is when Superman and Hulk fight for the 1st time ever. Superman knew the Hulk couldn't beat him so Superman just stood there like a statue and let Hulk punch him, but none of Hulk's punches had any effect on Superman and Hulk's punches couldn't even move Superman 1 inch. It was like Hulk was hitting Superman with a pillow. Finally, Hulk got tired and turned back into Bruce Banner. So that answered the question that many people had wondered about - who would win a fight between Superman and Hulk. Since then, there have been many more crossover comics. interesting. so i'm guessing a deal was in place where DC and Marvel split the profits.... think a movie down the line is in store - i.e. Marvel vs. DC? and who would win? who are the major players on each side? Excluding the X-Men and Fantastic Four, the major players on each side would be: Marvel: Spider-Man Iron Man Captain America Hulk Thor Black Widow Scarlet Witch Hawkeye DC: Superman Batman Wonder Woman Flash Aquaman Cyborg Shazam Green Lantern DC would win easily. Iron Man's suit is controlled by an AI and Cyborg can hack into any computer so Cyborg can just hack into the Iron Man suit's AI and shut it down immediately. Flash is faster than everyone on Marvel's team and can take out Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, and Hawkeye in the blink of an eye. Green Lantern can go into outer space but Spider-Man and Captain America can't so Green Lantern can just create a prison cell with his power ring and drag Spider-Man and Captain America into outer space. Hulk isn't as strong or fast as Superman so Superman can easily give Hulk a beatdown just like Thanos did in Infinity War. Thor is the only one who would be able to last more than 30 seconds, but the combination of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Shazam would be able to give Thor a beatdown.
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