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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 29, 2018 20:55:44 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave?
MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently?
If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win?
Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 29, 2018 20:59:07 GMT
Interesting and trenchant insights, OP. I applaud your willingness to encourage critical thinking and high-IQ storytelling even in the face of adversity.
You're basically the Rosa Parks of this board.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Apr 29, 2018 20:59:22 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently? If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win? Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!So how was the writing in Justice League worthy of being a 9/10 but Infinity War is clearly up there, or down there, with Birdemic and Battlefield Earth? |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 29, 2018 21:00:07 GMT
Is there a jar of piss? No? Okay. Moving on then.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Apr 29, 2018 21:00:27 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently? If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win? Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!When you take a test, you don’t learn that your love was murdered and mess up plans due to emotions, get impaled and beaten up by an overpowered alien, make sacrifices and bargains on the spot, lose the fight and get stranded on a ruined alien planet, and disintegrate/get trapped there alone and wounded after watching your friends perish. You think they could get that to play out following a plan? How successful are they with plans? |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 29, 2018 21:00:35 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently? If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win? Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!So how was the writing in Justice League worthy of being a 9/10 but Infinity War is clearly up there, or down there, with Birdemic and Battlefield Earth? He literally just explained it in the post you quoted. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Apr 29, 2018 21:02:07 GMT
So how was the writing in Justice League worthy of being a 9/10 but Infinity War is clearly up there, or down there, with Birdemic and Battlefield Earth? He literally just explained it in the post you quoted. Not how Justice League was a near-perfect 9/10 though. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 29, 2018 21:03:32 GMT
He literally just explained it in the post you quoted. Not how Justice League was a near-perfect 9/10 though. Oh, my bad. I misread your response. Carry on! |
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Post by merh on Apr 29, 2018 21:14:52 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently? If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win? Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!I'll make it simple for you. Strange looked at nearly 200,000 outcomes. (194,000,wasnt it?). ONLY 1 WORKED. Very possibly TELLING STARK was one of them, but not that one. That also means Strange did it KNOWING he was going to die. He put them on the path to that ONE SINGLE PATH in the exact manner it HAD to be done |
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 29, 2018 21:20:18 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently? If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win? Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!So how was the writing in Justice League worthy of being a 9/10 but Infinity War is clearly up there, or down there, with Birdemic and Battlefield Earth? This is the MCU board and this is a thread about an MCU movie. Why doe MCU fans always turn every thread into an MCU vs DC argument and then claim that DC fans start arguments when it's MCU fans who turn threads into an MCU vs DC argument? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 29, 2018 21:22:35 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 1.4 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? MCU fans have given the excuse that Doctor Strange telling them what to do to achieve the winning scenario would result in that no longer being the winning scenario? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why would telling them what they should do cause them to not be on the winning timeline anymore? If Doctor Strange told them what they should to achieve the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios, why would they do anything differently? If someone told you "These are going to be the winning lottery numbers", why would you not choose those numbers? When Biff had Gray's Sports Almanac, do you think Biff placed any bets that he knew wasn't going to win? Heck, I'll make it really simple for MCU fans to understand: If you're given the correct answers to a test before the test, why would you give different answers when you take the test than the correct answers that you've already been given before the test?
Like I said before, really awful writing in Infinity War!I'll make it simple for you. Strange looked at nearly 200,000 outcomes. (194,000,wasnt it?). ONLY 1 WORKED. Very possibly TELLING STARK was one of them, but not that one. That also means Strange did it KNOWING he was going to die. He put them on the path to that ONE SINGLE PATH in the exact manner it HAD to be done And now that Strange is dead, how would anyone know what the correct winning path should be now since Strange never told them? Maybe Strange didn't want to tell them because Strange wanted all the credit to himself for saving the universe and didn't want to share the credit with anyone else. |
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Post by merh on Apr 29, 2018 21:38:00 GMT
I'll make it simple for you. Strange looked at nearly 200,000 outcomes. (194,000,wasnt it?). ONLY 1 WORKED. Very possibly TELLING STARK was one of them, but not that one. That also means Strange did it KNOWING he was going to die. He put them on the path to that ONE SINGLE PATH in the exact manner it HAD to be done And now that Strange is dead, how would anyone know what the correct winning path should be now since Strange never told them? Maybe Strange didn't want to tell them because Strange wanted all the credit to himself for saving the universe and didn't want to share the credit with anyone else. Didn't see Dr Strange? He died numerous times fighting Dormammu. Its not about glory. Its about saving the universe. Your suggestion otherwise suggests you do not comprehend the true nature of a hero. |
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Post by NormanClature on Apr 29, 2018 21:51:11 GMT
Is there a jar of piss? No? Okay. Moving on then. If Lex didn't piss into the jar, Superman might not have told Batman to save his Martha and Batman would have killed him. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Apr 29, 2018 22:06:24 GMT
Yeah because the Martha scene was Oscar worthy writing right?
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Post by Salzmank on Apr 29, 2018 22:13:09 GMT
Interesting and trenchant insights, OP. I applaud your willingness to encourage critical thinking and high-IQ storytelling even in the face of adversity. You're basically the Rosa Parks of this board. Why don’t we have an “LOL” button on this board? Anyway…  |
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Post by sostie on Apr 29, 2018 22:45:03 GMT
Doctor Strange supposedly knows the 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios that would defeat a madman from killing half the universe, but he's going to keep that 1 winning scenario out of 14 million scenarios a secret all to himself and take that secret with him to the grave? Yeah I'm sure with what was going on there was plenty of time to explain how things panned out without affecting what is/was going to happen I'll make it simple for you ...Groundhog Day - Bill Murray doesn't get out of the loop until everything about that day is perfect. Maybe this has to play out in an exact way. Or, The Butterfly Effect (the theory not the film)...one action leads to numerous other actions leading to a conclusion. If one element is removed or done differently the same conclusion does not result. You mention Back To The Future 2. Well then you have I guess seen the first film. If Marty does not put certain events into motion he will no longer exist. Of course he could have just sat down and explained it all to his future parents and they would have happily complied. This is all fan theory/predictions. Did MCU write those? |
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Post by sostie on Apr 29, 2018 22:47:31 GMT
You're basically the Rosa Parks of this board. Parks wasn't biased against the MCU |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Apr 29, 2018 22:48:26 GMT
So how was the writing in Justice League worthy of being a 9/10 but Infinity War is clearly up there, or down there, with Birdemic and Battlefield Earth? This is the MCU board and this is a thread about an MCU movie. Why doe MCU fans always turn every thread into an MCU vs DC argument and then claim that DC fans start arguments when it's MCU fans who turn threads into an MCU vs DC argument? Answer the question. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 29, 2018 22:55:09 GMT
You're basically the Rosa Parks of this board. Parks wasn't biased against the MCU Exactly. And neither is DC-Fan. He is a scholar, a cinemaphile, and a gentleman. Innit? |
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Post by scabab on Apr 29, 2018 23:34:29 GMT
It makes sense to me. In the same way that John Connor never told Kyle Reese he was his father or how Trunks told Goku not to tell Vegeta and Bulma that they were his parents.
If they knew ahead of time it would change things drastically.
I would guess that Doctor Strange saw that Tony Stark was the reason for the winning scenario which is why he traded the gem.
In the timeline that Doctor Strange saw then Tony Stark wouldn't have known the winning scenario but they still won it anyway.
So it's probably best he doesn't know so he will take the winning path naturally.
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