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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 30, 2018 19:22:43 GMT
Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay
It's what the theatrical movie should've been like.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 30, 2018 23:10:15 GMT
So you concede the latter wasn't up to snuff?
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Post by moviemouth on May 1, 2018 2:27:21 GMT
Black Panther
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 1, 2018 3:24:15 GMT
As of Now, I think that it is a tie between "BLACK PANTHER" and "AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR".
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 1, 2018 5:42:35 GMT
Black Panther > Suicide Squad > Infinity War
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 6:49:57 GMT
I haven't seen 'Infinity War' or 'Black Panther' and am going to wait until they come out on Foxtel to see them but I loved 'Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay' and it was everything the 'Suicide Squad' live action movie should have been and more and had a wide variety of characters including LGBT representation with Scandal and Savage going further than 'Batman: Bad Blood' did with Batwoman having the first kiss between two characters of the same gender in a DC movie!! DC are on fire with their animated movies and I loved 'Teen Titans: The Judas Contract' and I am looking forward to seeing their other animated movies of 'Batman: Ninja', 'Death of the Family', 'Batman R.I.P.', 'The Long Halloween', 'The Death of Superman' and 'Reign of the Supermen' among others. 
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Post by salomonj on May 1, 2018 6:52:34 GMT
Aquaman, definately.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 1, 2018 19:40:03 GMT
I haven't seen 'Infinity War' or 'Black Panther' and am going to wait until they come out on Foxtel to see them Black Panther is awful. Here's my Black Panther review: After 3 straight comedies (GotG2, SMH, and Ragna-joke), MCU tried to copy DCEU by making a serious movie. But if Black Panther is supposed to be a serious movie, then Black Panther is a HUGE FAIL because Black Panther doesn't make any sense at all.
1. T'Chaka flew his aircraft to a neighborhood in Oakland at the beginning and T'Challa did the same thing at the end. The US government wouldn't just allow a foreign aircraft to fly over US airspace (especially after 9/11) and hover over or land in a US city. So Wakanda violated US airspace.
2. T'Chaka tried to arrest his brother and take him back to Wakanda for execution. Even if his bother did break the law, he's on American soil and T'Chaka has no jurisdiction to arrest him on American soil. T'Chaka would have to request the US government arrest his brother and extradite him to Wakanda. But the reason T'Chaka didn't do that and instead tried to covertly take his brother back to Wakanda for execution is because T'Chaka was afraid his brother would request political asylum from the US government.
3. T'Chaka kills his brother and just leaves without taking his brother's body back and giving him a proper burial. Even if T'Chaka has diplomatic immunity, he just killed someone on American soil so by law he still needs to report that to the US authorities. Instead, T'Chaka just leaves his brother's dead body there for his young son to find. Imagine a young child finding his father's dead body like that!
4. Klaue was arrested on Korean soil. Why the hell would the Korean authorities allow an American CIA agent (basically an American spy) and a Wakanda national to question a suspect arrested on Korean soil?
5. Why would the Korean government allow T'Challa to take a wounded American spy to Wakanda? 1 MCU fan said that South Korea is on friendly terms with the US, but that's irrelevant. He's not only an American citizen but an American CIA agent. The US government might not want a wounded CIA agent transported to a country that Americans aren't even allowed to visit and potentially drugged or tortured to reveal state secrets.
6. Since T'Challa accepted Killonger's challenge and Killmonger defeated T'Challa in combat, Killmonger was the rightful King of Wakanda. So the American CIA agent was basically participating in an illegal coup against the rightful King of Wakanda when he helped T'Challa take back the throne. Shouldn't the rogue CIA agent call Langley first to check if he has permission from POTUS to participate in an illegal coup against the rightful King of a foreign nation and potentially involve the US in a war that POTUS might not want? After all, POTUS might prefer having a former American soldier on the throne of Wakanda.
7. If Wakanda had all that medical technology/process to heal people and save lives, then why did T'Challa just let Killmonger die when T'Challa could've saved him? Because Killmonger didn't want to be in prison? But why would Killmonger be in prison? Killmonger didn't break any of Wakanda's laws. Killmonger was the uncle's real biological son so Killmonger wasn't an imposter. Killmonger challenged T'Challa for the throne, which Killmonger had a legal right to do by Wakandan law, and T'Challa accepted. Killmonger defeated T'Challa in combat so Killmonger was the rightful King of Wakanda according to Wakandan law. And as the rightful King of Wakanda, Killmonger had the legal right by Wakandan law to order his army and his ships to go outside Wakanda and wage war. So what Wakandan law did Killmonger break? Why would Killmonger be put in prison when he didn't break any Wakandan laws? Is it just normal policy that the King of Wakanda can just throw anyone in a Wakandan jail just because they challenged the King?
8. If Wakanda is supposedly the most technologically advanced nation in the world, then why are they still resorting to a medieval and barbaric and savage ritual of choosing a leader by violence and bloodshed and mortal combat? Is no one in Wakanda smart enough to come up with a peaceful way in the 21st century to choose a leader that doesn't involve violence and bloodshed and mortal combat, especially when most of the rest of the world has already done so?
9. If Wakanda wanted their King to prove himself worthy to lead the nation, then why would decide their King by mortal combat? Wouldn't a supposedly technologically advanced nation want to choose a King who is the smartest rather than just choose a King who has the most brute strength?
Black Panther is just another over-hyped and over-rated MCU movie that is full of awful writing.
And here's my Infinity War review: Pros: 1. It took 19 movies, but for the 1st time ever MCU finally has a villain who isn't awful or lame. A "former" MCU fan (who has been invited to never come back to this forum) used to say MCU is better than DC because MCU always makes the heroes the main character while DC makes the villain the main character. Well, Infinity War takes a page out of DC's playbook and makes the villain the main character and it's the 1st time in 19 movies that the villain of an MCU movie isn't awful or lame. 2. Loki repeating Tony Stark's line from the 1st Avengers movie ("We have a Hulk") and then Thanos proceeding to give Hulk such a severe beatdown that Hulk turned into a 1000-pound coward and was too scared to show up for the rest of the movie. 3. Loki finally getting killed. Loki ("I'm evil because I was adopted and Daddy Odin loved Thor more than me") has always been an awful, lame, and useless villain. Cons: 1. This movie was a big mess, constantly jumping all over the place from 1 location to another. 2. Drax claiming to be "invisible". Stupid scene that added nothing to the movie. 3. MCU ripping off The Illiad with Thanos sacrificing his daughter to get the soul stone. 4. Too many MCU characters were ready and willing to put half the universe at risk for their own selfish needs: a. Starlord - threw a hissy fit and helped Thanos to break free b. Doctor Strange - gave Thanos the time stone (which Thanos used to reverse time and get the mind stone from Vision's forehead later) just to save Iron Man and sacrifice half the universe; also knew which of the 14 million possible paths was the only path to defeat Thanos but took that secret to the grave and let Thanos kill half the universe rather than tell anyone else the winning path (MCU fans made the dumb excuse that telling others the winning path would bias their decisions. Of course, it's supposed to bias their decisions - so they can make the right decisions to defeat Thanos! If you're given the correct answers to a test BEFORE the test, of course you're going to write down those correct answers when you take the test. Who would be so stupid to NOT write down the correct answers if they're given the correct answers BEFORE the test?) c. Scarlet Witch - made an entire country fight Thanos just so she can keep her robot sex toy 5. Spider-Sense not working properly again as Spider-Man gets ambished and taken hostage by a guy with no superpowers. 6. An ending that will probably be reversed in Avengers 4, resulting in this movie having no stakes and basically being a waste of 2 and 1/2 hours since 90% of what happened in this movie will have been reversed in Avengers 4. Also, why is there even a need for Avengers 4? If Strange can use the time stone to see how to defeat Thanos, then Thanos should be able to do the same thing and see which is the only possible way he could be defeated and prevent that from ever happening. So it should now be impossible to defeat Thanos and there's no need for an Avengers 4 since it's now impossible for the Avengers to win.Rating: My ratings for movies and TV shows are always fair and objective and without any bias. Currently, 8 voters have rated Infinity War a zero out of 10 here: Rate AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR (2018). But despite the many flaws, I don't think Infinity War was as awful as most of MCU's other movies, especially the recent ones which have been really awful (e.g. Civil War, Doctor Strange, GotG2, SMH, Ragnarok, and Black Panther). So I'll rate Infinity War a 4 out of 10.
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Post by Vegas on May 1, 2018 19:52:25 GMT
While I really enjoyed Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay.... The only true thing in this thread is this: 
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