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Post by PreachCaleb on May 1, 2018 22:46:23 GMT
How exactly did Thanos get the mind stone from Vision's forehead after Scarlet Witch basically made Vision disintegrate? Oh yeah, he used the time stone (that Doctor Strange gave him) to reverse time a few seconds to bring Vision back. Didn't Doctor Strange have the time stone in his possession when Thanos arrived? So all Doctor Strange had to do was reverse time a few seconds or a few minutes and kill Gamora BEFORE Thanos arrived. Like I said before, that was really awful writing in Infinity War! Dude, you're not thinking straight. HOW is Strange going to kill Gamora? So he reverses time to when she was still alive. Great. What next? 1. He doesn't know where Gamora is. 2. He doesn't even know who Gamora is. 3. Even if he knew, how does he get to Gamora? We don't know how far his portals can travel. 4. Even if he did get to travel to Gamora, Thanos is already there. How does he get past Thanos? 5. We also don't know just how far back the time gem can reverse time. So far we've only seen it reverse a few minutes. We don't know if it can go all the way back to before Gamora was taken. Heck, he doesn't even know why Gamora is. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 1, 2018 22:48:35 GMT
Dude, you're not thinking straight. HOW is Strange going to kill Gamora? So he reverses time to when she was still alive. Great. What next? 1. He doesn't know where Gamora is. 2. He doesn't even know who Gamora is. 3. Even if he knew, how does he get to Gamora? We don't know how far his portals can travel. 4. Even if he did get to travel to Gamora, Thanos is already there. How does he get past Thanos? 5. We also don't know just how far back the time gem can reverse time. So far we've only seen it reverse a few minutes. We don't know if it can go all the way back to before Gamora was taken. Heck, he doesn't even know why Gamora is. Nah, he knows why. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 1, 2018 22:49:41 GMT
Heck, he doesn't even know why Gamora is. Nah, he knows why. That's not what that means. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 1, 2018 22:50:48 GMT
That's not what that means. Nah, it's what it means. |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 1, 2018 23:43:22 GMT
Doctor Strange claimed that there were 14 million possibilities and only 1 possibility would result in a win and that giving Thanos the time stone was "the only way". I've been saying that was really awful writing and now it's been confirmed that I'm right. Another thread on this board asks the question: Why didn't Doctor Strange chop Thanos' arm off? Chopping off Thanos' hand would've definitely resulted in a winning scenario. Also, after Thor hit Thanos with the axe, Thanos himself told Thor that he should've gone for the head. So if Thor had chopped off Thanos' head, that would've definitely resulted in another winning scenario. So there was in fact more than 1 winning scenario, meaning that Doctor Strange was bullshitting when he claimed that giving Thanos the time stone was "the only way". And that also means that I'm right in saying that the writing was really awful. So my 4 out of 10 rating for Infinity War is appropriate. They are still in that 1 winning scenario. The point of what they did on Titan was a distraction. From everyone except Dr. Strange they were actually trying to get the gauntlet off. For Dr. Strange, they were keeping him there for a bit longer so he wouldn't go get the mind stone before all the heroes were in the same spot. Even if they cut his arm off, he would not stop trying to get the stones. Also, how do we know a Dr. Strange portal can cut his arm off? It worked on Cull Obsidian, but he's not Thanos. You do know this is the 1st part of 2 movies right? And you should never ever criticize a movie for terrible writing considering the movies you like. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 1, 2018 23:51:37 GMT
Also, after Thor hit Thanos with the axe, Thanos himself told Thor that he should've gone for the head. That is awful writing. Makes Thanos sound like a teen. Comic book appropriate dialogue would say it in a more flamboyant way like "Impotent cretin! A blow to my imperious crown would have yielded victory! May that cataclysmic error haunt your worthless existence forever!" |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 2, 2018 1:40:19 GMT
Probably because Thor trying to cut Thanos' head off would have been extremely hard to do. So the Avengers can only win when it's easy and can't win when it's hard? Of course it's hard to do! It was hard to defeat Zod and his soldiers in MoS, but Superman and the military didn't tap out and quit like Doctor Strange did. As for the arm chopping stuff, maybe Strange already saw that scenario and found out it fails... like maybe anyone who possessed the infinity gauntlet with the stones is immune to having their arm cut off while wearing the gauntlet. So you're saying all it takes is 4 of the 6 infinity stones to make his arm immune from being cut off? |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 2, 2018 1:42:37 GMT
Doctor Strange claimed that there were 14 million possibilities and only 1 possibility would result in a win and that giving Thanos the time stone was "the only way". I've been saying that was really awful writing and now it's been confirmed that I'm right. Another thread on this board asks the question: Why didn't Doctor Strange chop Thanos' arm off? Chopping off Thanos' hand would've definitely resulted in a winning scenario. Also, after Thor hit Thanos with the axe, Thanos himself told Thor that he should've gone for the head. So if Thor had chopped off Thanos' head, that would've definitely resulted in another winning scenario. So there was in fact more than 1 winning scenario, meaning that Doctor Strange was bullshitting when he claimed that giving Thanos the time stone was "the only way". And that also means that I'm right in saying that the writing was really awful. So my 4 out of 10 rating for Infinity War is appropriate. They are still in that 1 winning scenario. The point of what they did on Titan was a distraction. From everyone except Dr. Strange they were actually trying to get the gauntlet off. For Dr. Strange, they were keeping him there for a bit longer so he wouldn't go get the mind stone before all the heroes were in the same spot. Even if they cut his arm off, he would not stop trying to get the stones. So what if Thanos doesn't stop trying to get the rest of the infinity stones. If they chop off Thanos' arm, then Thanos can't snap his fingers! So cutting off Thanos' arm is an automatic guarantee of a win! |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 2, 2018 2:19:58 GMT
They are still in that 1 winning scenario. The point of what they did on Titan was a distraction. From everyone except Dr. Strange they were actually trying to get the gauntlet off. For Dr. Strange, they were keeping him there for a bit longer so he wouldn't go get the mind stone before all the heroes were in the same spot. Even if they cut his arm off, he would not stop trying to get the stones. So what if Thanos doesn't stop trying to get the rest of the infinity stones. If they chop off Thanos' arm, then Thanos can't snap his fingers! So cutting off Thanos' arm is an automatic guarantee of a win! He has another arm. Also, he doesn't need the gauntlet to use the stones. The stones have been used before just fine without a gauntlet. That was just a way to house them. He can keep them in his pocket. Another thing, you are forgetting that it is not easy to harm Thanos. He made fun of Tony for going through all that for just a tiny scratch. The only thing in the movie that actually harmed him was Thor's axe. Closing a portal on his arm would just give him a glowy armband. |
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Post by Skaathar on May 2, 2018 2:29:13 GMT
Probably because Thor trying to cut Thanos' head off would have been extremely hard to do. So the Avengers can only win when it's easy and can't win when it's hard? Of course it's hard to do! It was hard to defeat Zod and his soldiers in MoS, but Superman and the military didn't tap out and quit like Doctor Strange did. As for the arm chopping stuff, maybe Strange already saw that scenario and found out it fails... like maybe anyone who possessed the infinity gauntlet with the stones is immune to having their arm cut off while wearing the gauntlet. So you're saying all it takes is 4 of the 6 infinity stones to make his arm immune from being cut off? So you're basically saying you want the Avengers to rest all their hopes on a lucky shot by Thor. |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 2, 2018 2:32:11 GMT
So what if Thanos doesn't stop trying to get the rest of the infinity stones. If they chop off Thanos' arm, then Thanos can't snap his fingers! So cutting off Thanos' arm is an automatic guarantee of a win! He has another arm. Unless Thanos has 2 left thumbs, the gauntlet wouldn't fit on his other hand. |
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Post by DSDSquared on May 2, 2018 12:11:49 GMT
How exactly did Thanos get the mind stone from Vision's forehead after Scarlet Witch basically made Vision disintegrate? Oh yeah, he used the time stone (that Doctor Strange gave him) to reverse time a few seconds to bring Vision back. Didn't Doctor Strange have the time stone in his possession when Thanos arrived? So all Doctor Strange had to do was reverse time a few seconds or a few minutes and kill Gamora BEFORE Thanos arrived. Like I said before, that was really awful writing in Infinity War! Dude, you're not thinking straight. HOW is Strange going to kill Gamora? So he reverses time to when she was still alive. Great. What next? 1. He doesn't know where Gamora is. 2. He doesn't even know who Gamora is. 3. Even if he knew, how does he get to Gamora? We don't know how far his portals can travel. 4. Even if he did get to travel to Gamora, Thanos is already there. How does he get past Thanos? 5. We also don't know just how far back the time gem can reverse time. So far we've only seen it reverse a few minutes. We don't know if it can go all the way back to before Gamora was taken. He doesn't know why Gamora is either. |
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Post by DSDSquared on May 2, 2018 12:13:20 GMT
Unless Thanos has 2 left thumbs, the gauntlet wouldn't fit on his other hand. You are a complete biased moron. You nitpick everything that happens in an MCU movie no matter how easily explained. Yet, you think movies like BvS, SS, and JL are like 10/10 movies. It is hilariously sad. |
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Post by DSDSquared on May 2, 2018 12:13:45 GMT
Dude, you're not thinking straight. HOW is Strange going to kill Gamora? So he reverses time to when she was still alive. Great. What next? 1. He doesn't know where Gamora is. 2. He doesn't even know who Gamora is. 3. Even if he knew, how does he get to Gamora? We don't know how far his portals can travel. 4. Even if he did get to travel to Gamora, Thanos is already there. How does he get past Thanos? 5. We also don't know just how far back the time gem can reverse time. So far we've only seen it reverse a few minutes. We don't know if it can go all the way back to before Gamora was taken. Heck, he doesn't even know why Gamora is. Ha ha I wrote the same thing after I read his post. |
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Post by ThatGuy on May 2, 2018 14:29:53 GMT
Unless Thanos has 2 left thumbs, the gauntlet wouldn't fit on his other hand. He doesn't specifically need the gauntlet. It's for easy housing. He can keep the stones in his pocket. |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 8, 2018 3:37:25 GMT
Probably because Thor trying to cut Thanos' head off would have been extremely hard to do. Apparently, Thor intentionally didn't try to cut off Thanos head because Thor didn't want to kill Thanos too quickly because Thor wanted to trash-talk Thanos first before killing him. Why Thor Didn’t Kill In Avengers: Infinity WarAvengers: Infinity War co-director Joe Russo has explained why Thor didn’t kill Thanos when he had the chance.
Thor came very close to defeating the Mad Titan too, when he rammed his weapon into Thanos’ chest mere seconds after Thanos has acquired the last of the Infinity Stones for his Gauntlet. Unfortunately, that wasn’t enough to stop the villain from snapping his fingers and literally wiping out half of the universe’s population in the process. So why didn’t Thor aim Stormbreaker at Thanos’ head (as the Mad Titan taunted him for not doing) and kill him right there?
The snarky answer, of course, is “Because then there would be no Avengers 4.” The longer answer is that Thor wanted payback for everything Thanos did to him, as Russo told Comic Book. Russo further indicated that Marvel fans should be just as angry at Thor for not doing the smart thing as they are at Star-Lord for his own failure to stop Thanos from carrying out his terrible plan:
“I would argue that the fan base could be equally upset with Thor, who chose to throw that ax into Thanos chest and not his head. Because he wanted to tell Thanos that he got his revenge. Had he gone for a kill shot, that snap would not have happened. These are choices that characters who are feeling immense pain make and hopefully, the audience can learn to empathize with those characters because they can grow through stories. Stories can teach us things and that we should try to see every choice from the perspective of the character that made the choice.”So the Russos confirmed that the reason Thor missed Thanos' head (which even Thanos admitted Thor shouldn've done) is because Thor intentionally aimed for Thanos' chest instead of his head just so Thor could trash-talk Thanos. So Thor selfishly risked the lives of half the universe by not going for the kill shot when he had the chance and instead intentionally going for the chest just so he could trash-talk Thanos. That's the problem with a team calling themselves "Avengers" and making revenge or vengeance (rather than justice) their primary goal. |
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Post by Salzmank on May 8, 2018 13:30:50 GMT
That's still not what that means. It means you shrink in terror before the intellectual might of DC-Fan's iron-clad arguments. You haven't offered a single attempt at a refutation yet. You two crazy kids are great. Ready to go on the road with this act, be the new Bing and Bob, Bud and Lou, Dino and Jerry?  |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 8, 2018 13:44:41 GMT
Caleb still mad because he didn't know what "mark" meant. He just can't let it go lol. I know. What a mark! |
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Post by Larcen26 on May 8, 2018 15:34:59 GMT
Doctor Strange claimed that there were 14 million possibilities and only 1 possibility would result in a win and that giving Thanos the time stone was "the only way". I've been saying that was really awful writing and now it's been confirmed that I'm right. Another thread on this board asks the question: Why didn't Doctor Strange chop Thanos' arm off? Chopping off Thanos' hand would've definitely resulted in a winning scenario. Also, after Thor hit Thanos with the axe, Thanos himself told Thor that he should've gone for the head. So if Thor had chopped off Thanos' head, that would've definitely resulted in another winning scenario. So there was in fact more than 1 winning scenario, meaning that Doctor Strange was bullshitting when he claimed that giving Thanos the time stone was "the only way". And that also means that I'm right in saying that the writing was really awful. So my 4 out of 10 rating for Infinity War is appropriate. You admit that there are 14 million possibilities. You admit that there was only 1 way to win. Yet you assume that in the 14 million possibilities, he never attempted to cut off the arm or head using the portals? |
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