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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:16:56 GMT
Christianity.
I actually like how there are many forms of Christianity and how people from other cultures view it.
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 16, 2017 21:26:03 GMT
I voted for the perceived lesser evil : Christianity. I am not really familiar with the other religions; but from what I see the best places to live on Earth have a mostly Christian tradition. Western Europe, Northern America, Australia... Is that due to Christianity per se though? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 21:29:24 GMT
Christianity.
Why? Because out of all the theistic religions, Christianity is unique in that it's God trying to reach us rather then the conventional idea of us searching for Him.
Buddhism has some nice precepts but it all ultimately seems rather pointless.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 16, 2017 21:33:05 GMT
I voted for the perceived lesser evil : Christianity. I am not really familiar with the other religions; but from what I see the best places to live on Earth have a mostly Christian tradition. Western Europe, Northern America, Australia... Is that due to Christianity per se though? I think so.
Christianity is largely about choice (Since no kingdom is better than God's Kingdom) so there is not an overwhelming influence even if at times that Christians are prevalent.
They tend to be annoying only because they exist or when they are asked to compromise their ideals for the sake of a secular ideal. They actually are good at this most of the time as long as they aren't forced to acknowledge it themselves.
I don't think there's much question that Christian nations are routinely liberally even if individuals within that nation live conservatively based on their beliefs.
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Post by phludowin on Mar 16, 2017 21:48:47 GMT
I voted for the perceived lesser evil : Christianity. I am not really familiar with the other religions; but from what I see the best places to live on Earth have a mostly Christian tradition. Western Europe, Northern America, Australia... Is that due to Christianity per se though? It's primarily due to enlightenment, and the right of the individual. I guess that Christianity is the most compatible, or maybe the least contradictory to these ideas. If Islam had kept its science friendliness from during the Golden Age, maybe I would see things differently. But the brand of Islam currently en vogue is not my cup of tea. I am not familiar enough with Buddhism and Hinduism to judge them. But if we look at how many people are trying to leave South-East Asia to live in Europe, America or Australia, vs. how few people from these places want to live in South-East Asia, I guess that it does not really speak in favour of the predominantly Buddhist or Hindu places. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 16, 2017 22:21:37 GMT
I think Islam is still pro-science or at least pro-parts of it.
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Post by camimac on Mar 16, 2017 22:31:07 GMT
I'm probably the only one, but the subject of this thread is completely bizarre to me. My belief and worship of God is an imperative for me. I am a Christian. I believe there is only one God. I recognize that not everyone believes as I do. I try to be tolerant, but I don't rank other religions. Like I don't think if there is some tenet of Christianity that I have a problem with, I'll convert to my second favorite religion (if I had a first and second, etc). For me, there is one faith and no other choice. And, I'm good with that.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Mar 16, 2017 22:41:52 GMT
I'm probably the only one, but the subject of this thread is completely bizarre to me. My belief and worship of God is an imperative for me. I am a Christian. I believe there is only one God. I recognize that not everyone believes as I do. I try to be tolerant, but I don't rank other religions. Like I don't think if there is some tenet of Christianity that I have a problem with, I'll convert to my second favorite religion (if I had a first and second, etc). For me, there is one faith and no other choice. And, I'm good with that. I think we all respect your choice. The reason I worded the poll that way, was so that non religious folks and those who follow more than one could still choose. |
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Post by camimac on Mar 16, 2017 22:43:46 GMT
I'm probably the only one, but the subject of this thread is completely bizarre to me. My belief and worship of God is an imperative for me. I am a Christian. I believe there is only one God. I recognize that not everyone believes as I do. I try to be tolerant, but I don't rank other religions. Like I don't think if there is some tenet of Christianity that I have a problem with, I'll convert to my second favorite religion (if I had a first and second, etc). For me, there is one faith and no other choice. And, I'm good with that. I think we all respect your choice. The reason I worded the poll that way, was so that non religious folks and those who follow more than one could still choose. okay |
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 17, 2017 0:03:37 GMT
Is that due to Christianity per se though? It's primarily due to enlightenment, and the right of the individual. I guess that Christianity is the most compatible, or maybe the least contradictory to these ideas. If Islam had kept its science friendliness from during the Golden Age, maybe I would see things differently. But the brand of Islam currently en vogue is not my cup of tea. I am not familiar enough with Buddhism and Hinduism to judge them. But if we look at how many people are trying to leave South-East Asia to live in Europe, America or Australia, vs. how few people from these places want to live in South-East Asia, I guess that it does not really speak in favour of the predominantly Buddhist or Hindu places. I think economics plays a much bigger part than religion. South-East Asia is poor, Western Europe, N America and Australia are wealthy. You don't see SE Asian Buddhists moving to Christian countries like Colombia or Uganda. Even the enlightenment and rights of man owe more to economics than religion imo. In fact Christianity was appealed to both by champions of individual rights like Locke and their opponents like Hobbes. The fact that this debate occured at that time - as emergent capitalism was allowing individuals to break free from feudalism - is especially telling. You don't see any Christian thinkers championing individual rights before this economic epoch. Not saying that Christianity hasn't made positive contributions in these countries or that other religions haven't made negative contributions in some other areas, but religion is just one of many complex socio-economic factors that determine how pleasant a place is to live in. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 8:28:11 GMT
I have a soft spot for Jewish traditions. I was surprised that Judaism was not on the list.
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Post by RedRuth1966 on Mar 17, 2017 8:53:42 GMT
I think Islam is still pro-science or at least pro-parts of it. Not really, the academic output and spending in Muslim countries fall way below the rest of the world. Obviously there are individual Muslim scientists who are exceptional but they go and work in the west. I read somewhere that there are more mosques than libraries on university campuses in Pakistan which gives an indication of their priorities. Nature ran a special issue on Islam and Science a few years ago and it's pretty damning. If you're interested www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7115/full/444026a.html |
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Post by scienceisgod on Mar 17, 2017 9:40:49 GMT
I have a soft spot for Jewish traditions. I was surprised that Judaism was not on the list. Islam circumcises too, equal opportunity for boys and girls, and they don't suck the blood after with their mouths either. |
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 17, 2017 17:59:55 GMT
tpfkar Whether or not to submit to extortion is a choice.  The ones that are annoying seem to be perpetually trying to gum things up. The liberality of Christian nations came from those resisting religion. Choose your words carefully |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Mar 17, 2017 18:03:47 GMT
I have a soft spot for Jewish traditions. I was surprised that Judaism was not on the list. To avoid a huge list of choices, I had to have a cutoff number at some point. I went with those that had 400 million followers or more. Judaism was listed at 17 million. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Mar 17, 2017 18:05:45 GMT
Here is a percentage list that also helped me decide which ones to include:
Christianity (31.5%)
Islam (23.2%)
Hinduism (15.0%)
Buddhism (7.1%)
Folk religions (5.9%)
Other religions (1%)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 20:36:30 GMT
tpfkar Whether or not to submit to extortion is a choice. The ones that are annoying seem to be perpetually trying to gum things up. The liberality of Christian nations came from those resisting religion. Choose your words carefullyAnd people resisting religion came from them being allowed to resist religion. In order to resist religion, you have to be able to do so without the threat of torture. |
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Post by althea on Mar 17, 2017 21:05:30 GMT
Why is there no option to choose atheism? A/theism isn't a religion - both atheists and theists can be either religious or irreligious. |
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Post by phludowin on Mar 17, 2017 23:32:22 GMT
It's primarily due to enlightenment, and the right of the individual. I guess that Christianity is the most compatible, or maybe the least contradictory to these ideas. If Islam had kept its science friendliness from during the Golden Age, maybe I would see things differently. But the brand of Islam currently en vogue is not my cup of tea. I am not familiar enough with Buddhism and Hinduism to judge them. But if we look at how many people are trying to leave South-East Asia to live in Europe, America or Australia, vs. how few people from these places want to live in South-East Asia, I guess that it does not really speak in favour of the predominantly Buddhist or Hindu places. I think economics plays a much bigger part than religion. South-East Asia is poor, Western Europe, N America and Australia are wealthy. You don't see SE Asian Buddhists moving to Christian countries like Colombia or Uganda. Even the enlightenment and rights of man owe more to economics than religion imo. In fact Christianity was appealed to both by champions of individual rights like Locke and their opponents like Hobbes. The fact that this debate occured at that time - as emergent capitalism was allowing individuals to break free from feudalism - is especially telling. You don't see any Christian thinkers championing individual rights before this economic epoch. Not saying that Christianity hasn't made positive contributions in these countries or that other religions haven't made negative contributions in some other areas, but religion is just one of many complex socio-economic factors that determine how pleasant a place is to live in. I agree that economics play a big factor in how good a place is for living. On the other hand, Saudi-Arabia, Qatar and Dubai are rich. But the granted rights of the individual, especially when this individual happens to be female or homosexual or non-Muslim, are questionable, to say the least. |
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 18, 2017 1:02:08 GMT
I agree that economics play a big factor in how good a place is for living. On the other hand, Saudi-Arabia, Qatar and Dubai are rich. But the granted rights of the individual, especially when this individual happens to be female or homosexual or non-Muslim, are questionable, to say the least. No arguments there. |
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