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Post by summers8 on May 8, 2018 19:56:30 GMT
I remember back in 2014, I said Interstellar was the best space movie and I was mocked because I was never into GOTG. Interstellar though not perfect and not a Nolan top 5 movie I liked due to the depth and intellect of the movie. I do sense a level of vindication because GOTG does not seem to have aged well and the infamous dance off scene has stroked a lot of hated that over powers the movie. I think GOTG is also one of the most childish mcu movies to the point of been pure modern disney. To those of you, take yourself back to 2014. did you always like interstellar first or did you change your mind over the years on the best space fantasy movie of 2014. My vindication also comes after James Cameron said what I was thinking in 2014 www.cosmicbooknews.com/james-cameron-guardians-galaxy"We can see the market drives us to a sort of science fiction now that's either completely escapist and doesn’t require a technical consultant — an example of that would be ‘Guardians of the Galaxy.’ It’s just fun,” Cameron said (via IndieWire). “We don’t care how those spaceships work or any of that stuff works. And then you have scientifically responsible science fiction like ‘The Martian’ or ‘Interstellar.'”This was my argument too. This is Nolan talking about gotg |
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Post by blockbusted on May 8, 2018 20:45:30 GMT
You can’t even compare the two. The former is a space opera while the latter is a hard sci-fi.
Of course, you’re type of person who would even cite ISIS as a credible source if they openly trash MCU.
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Post by summers8 on May 8, 2018 22:04:49 GMT
You can’t even compare the two. The former is a space opera while the latter is a hard sci-fi. Of course, you’re type of person who would even cite ISIS as a credible source if they openly trash MCU. No I like vindication. you don't have to compare them directly. star wars is a space opera but it is not irresponsible or dumb. |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on May 8, 2018 22:33:48 GMT
You can’t even compare the two. The former is a space opera while the latter is a hard sci-fi. Of course, you’re type of person who would even cite ISIS as a credible source if they openly trash MCU. No I like vindication. you don't have to compare them directly. star wars is a space opera but it is not irresponsible or dumb. Quite a few moments in the prequel trilogy and in The Last Jedi were pretty irresponsible and dumb, just saying. |
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Post by summers8 on May 8, 2018 22:45:03 GMT
No I like vindication. you don't have to compare them directly. star wars is a space opera but it is not irresponsible or dumb. Quite a few moments in the prequel trilogy and in The Last Jedi were pretty irresponsible and dumb, just saying. the prequels are better than the disney movies. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 22:56:50 GMT
Interstellar (2014) is in my opinion a better movie.
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Post by blockbusted on May 8, 2018 22:57:00 GMT
No I like vindication. you don't have to compare them directly. star wars is a space opera but it is not irresponsible or dumb. Quite a few moments in the prequel trilogy and in The Last Jedi were pretty irresponsible and dumb, just saying. Particularly 'The Phantom Menace'. You could at least argue that 'The Last Jedi' was a good film on its own. 'The Phantom Menace', on the other hand... |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on May 8, 2018 22:57:18 GMT
Quite a few moments in the prequel trilogy and in The Last Jedi were pretty irresponsible and dumb, just saying. the prequels are better than the disney movies. Based on what? Your opinion? |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 9, 2018 0:29:50 GMT
I must say, Guardians would have been awesome with a tidal wave planet,
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 9, 2018 10:54:57 GMT
Interstellar created a new genre, Science Soap - not my cup of tea, but ok for the great soundtrack alone, and the Monolith-inspired robot. If they really try to reason that this film was scientifically accurate in any way, especially the black hole business, oh well...
Guardians is just mindless dreck for the lowest common denominator. It introduced the Dance Off finale & penis, turds and nipples dialogue. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 9, 2018 11:02:55 GMT
the prequels are better than the disney movies. Based on what? Your opinion? Based on artistic merit, dreddio. Love them or hate them, these films stand for imagination and originality. They tell an original story about a democracy falling over itself into totalitarism, and the corruption and rise of demagogues. The Disney films are commercial rehashes without imagination or artistic value of their own.
I would not expect a Disney shill like you to have the brains to realize that.
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Post by charzhino on May 9, 2018 11:50:21 GMT
Although Interstellar has flaws I think its Nolans best film hes ever made and is the best sci-fi of all time, and that includes sci fi fantasy subgenre with Gotg and Star Wars.
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Post by DSDSquared on May 9, 2018 11:59:47 GMT
I like Interstellar better. It is one of my favorites and I do put it in Nolan's top five, but GOTG was a great movie. It was really fun and it showed that Marvel can make a successful movie about anything.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 9, 2018 12:50:34 GMT
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Post by kevin on May 9, 2018 13:14:24 GMT
Very difficult to compare the two as they're completely different, but I think Interstellar (10/10) is a lot better than Guardians of the Galaxy (8/10), even though GotG is still great and one of my favorite MCU movies.
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Post by blockbusted on May 9, 2018 14:39:12 GMT
Based on what? Your opinion? Based on artistic merit, dreddio. Love them or hate them, these films stand for imagination and originality. They tell an original story about a democracy falling over itself into totalitarism, and the corruption and rise of demagogues. The Disney films are commercial rehashes without imagination or artistic value of their own.
I would not expect a Disney shill like you to have the brains to realize that.
And were handled quite poorly, particularly in 'The Phantom Menace'.
I mean, if we go by your logic, then films like 'Jupiter Ascending' would be a masterpiece.
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Post by kevin on May 9, 2018 15:40:20 GMT
Based on what? Your opinion? Based on artistic merit, dreddio. Love them or hate them, these films stand for imagination and originality. They tell an original story about a democracy falling over itself into totalitarism, and the corruption and rise of demagogues. The Disney films are commercial rehashes without imagination or artistic value of their own.
I would not expect a Disney shill like you to have the brains to realize that.
I agree with the fact that the prequels have a lot of imagination and originality. The world building is so extremely good and the basic premise and expansion of the Star Wars world is fantastic. It makes the fact that I'm disappointed with the end result even more painful. For all of its creativity, the execution (especially in episode 1 & 2) is just bad imo, especially in the dialogue department. I still consider the prequels the prime example of 'could've been masterpieces'. I'm convinced the ideas Lucas has, the overall arcs, plot lines, themes and parallels could, with the right direction, even rival the OT. I just wish he would've been a creative director, the one who comes up with the basic story and the worldbuilding. A prequel trilogy envisioned by Lucas, not written by Lucas and directed by someone like Spielberg would've been a masterpiece. |
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Post by salomonj on May 9, 2018 15:41:55 GMT
If Interstellar is a better film, explain the ending to me. This should be good. What? This doesn’t even make sense. That’s like saying “if 2001 is a good movie, explain the ending to me”. Some things are perfectly fine being ambiguous and unexplained. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 9, 2018 15:42:22 GMT
Based on artistic merit, dreddio. Love them or hate them, these films stand for imagination and originality. They tell an original story about a democracy falling over itself into totalitarism, and the corruption and rise of demagogues. The Disney films are commercial rehashes without imagination or artistic value of their own.
I would not expect a Disney shill like you to have the brains to realize that.
And were handled quite poorly, particularly in 'The Phantom Menace'.
 the only thing poorly handled is your personal incredulity. The PT entails some of the best and most unique storytelling in recent memory. Phantom Menace? Palpatine's rise to become chancellor alone is remarkable; the musical score, world building and art design are high-end in quality and iconic - characters like Darth Maul, Palpatine or Qui Gon, new concept vehicles like pot racers or action scenes like the deadly saber fight are unique.
What iconic things did Guardians give us...the raccoon turd dialogue, the dance off stone?
lol, the infamous blockbuster "logic" again. Non sequitur. Can you even argue what makes the Jupiter storytelling relevant or comparable to something like the PT? Let's try: I start with the political content from EpI (Phantom Menace):
The general public's trust in democratic and republican principles has waned. Palpatine uses corporate greed and weariness of democratic processes to ally with business federations against the Republic. He lets them invade his home world for annexation and causes a constitutional and political crisis in the Republic. He bogs down the acting Chancellor’s decision making by legal procedures and corruptive elements - thus using the public anger to call for a vote for no confidence against teh Chancellor. He then uses the victim card and sympathy bonus to become Supreme Chancellor himself; the final scene shows he has won by the choir singing his Emperor-theme in major key.
It's relevant,highly original and sophisticated storytelling, so now show me something remotely comparable from lowbrow children movies like Jupitor or Raccoon Turd Vol1/2...
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Post by salomonj on May 9, 2018 15:44:23 GMT
Interstellar would make my favorites list.
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