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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 9, 2018 22:34:49 GMT
Daniel Craig - Four movies in and only every second one is worth your time. Quantum of Solace continues to look worse everyday while SPECTRE blows its load early on with that impressive tracking shot. Casino Royale is among the top five of the series, while Skyfall is pretty solid bounce back after QoS (Skyfall is also probably the best looking movie in the series, as well).
Roger Moore - The 1980s were a low point for the series. Moore was already 52 by the time Moonraker was released. Still had three more movies after that. The Spy Who Loved Me represents the best of the big style Bond adventures. Also a great example of the production design by Ken Adam.
Timothy Dalton - The departure of Roger Moore left the series to start fresh. The Living Daylights is actually not all that bad and far more fun then Licence to Kill.
Pierce Brosnan - Started off strong with Goldeneye, which yielded a terrific video game, yet ended with possibly the worst film in the series.
Sean Connery - His performance in Goldfinger just ejaculates charisma all over the screen. By Thunderball, he was starting to look a bit bored. Returning for Diamonds are Forever, he looked pretty rough for 40 years old.
George Lazenby - Stiff performance in a Bond movie that has some of the best action scenes and the most punch of any ending in the series. It was pretty idiotic for him to decline any future Bond films as he could have progressed in the role. Why didn't Kojack return for Diamonds are Forever, though?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 9, 2018 22:42:44 GMT
Bond requires too many traditions to be a consistently decent franchise.
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 9, 2018 22:43:25 GMT
Goldeneye was the movie that really introduced me to James Bond (actually it was the Man with the Golden Gun but I was way too young to really get it), so I'll always have a special fondness for Brosnan's Bond.
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Post by _ on May 9, 2018 22:44:21 GMT
Hard to top Casino Royale (2006)
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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 9, 2018 22:44:49 GMT
Goldeneye was the movie that really introduced me to James Bond (actually it was the Man with the Golden Gun but I was way too young to really get it), so I'll always have a special fondness for Brosnan's Bond. Yeah, it was the first one I saw as well. It wasn't until 1999 when I really got into the earlier movies. |
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Post by DC-Fan on May 9, 2018 23:05:43 GMT
The 1st Bond movie I saw in a theater was Moonraker. But the 1st Bond movie I saw was The Man with the Golden Gun on TV.
My favorite Bond title songs are:
A View to a Kill
For Your Eyes Only
Diamonds Are Forever
Goldfinger
My list of the hottest Bond girls (in chronological order) are:
Daniella Bianchi
Jill St. John
Britt Ekland
Lois Chiles
Carole Boquet
Tanya Roberts
Carey Lowell
Izabella Scorupco
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 9, 2018 23:08:24 GMT
My top two Bond movies Casino Royale (2006) and GoldenEye (1995) have, coincidentally, both been directed by Martin Campbell. I hope they bring him back to direct whenever they choose the next actor to play Bond, as I think he has a good track record with the Bond films.
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Post by outrider127 on May 9, 2018 23:09:56 GMT
Never liked Daniel Craig, can't stand any of his 007 movies--Even Skyfall sucked and that grossed a Billion---The high point of 007 were the Roger Moore years, except for Live and Let Die and A View To A Kill, so many fun and enjoyable movies with Roger Moore they were the best films----Connery of course was the best Bond, but only Goldfinger is not painfully dated, Diamonds Are Forever was a disgrace--Pierce Brosnan was awesome in the superb GoldenEye, Die Another Day, Tomorrow Never Dies, 3 of the best Bond movies ever made--Timothy Dalton's two movies were awful--Lazenby's On Her Majesty's Secret Service was awful until Bond escapes, then it was very good
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Post by mslo79 on May 9, 2018 23:24:00 GMT
Agreed, obviously. but I think that for the most part modern movies generally have better all around visuals than older movies. p.s. my bread-and-butter in terms of cinematography in general is... Road to Perdition (2002). because while there are a fair amount of other movies out there that have strong visuals to, they don't combine the great visuals with great moments in the movie along with a great score like that movie does. I can't really fault you for saying that as that's probably true for many but for me personally I think the 70's/80's/90's were largely weak enough with a small exception once in a great while in the Bond series. my personal favorite Bond movies... 1.Skyfall (2012) - 9/10 (within my Top 26 movies) 2.Casino Royale (2006) (I mainly gave Skyfall the edge over this because this never really hits it's stride til nearly a hour into the movie which is basically around the time Eva Green shows up where as Skyfall I feel more interest in the movie from beginning to end is more stable) 3.Goldfinger (1964) - 7.5-8/10 (within my Top 105 movies) 4.Spectre (2015) 5.From Russia with Love (1963) - 7-7.5/10 (not much outside of my Top 105 movies) 6.Licence to Kill (1989) - 7/10 (within my Top 187 movies. NOTE: License to Kill was within my Top 56 movies or so not all that long ago but took a hit on my most recent viewing. still, it's a solid movie) 7.Dr. No (1962) 8.The Man with the Golden Gun (1974) - 6-6.5/10 (within my Top 236 movies) for the record... I like 14 out of the 25 Bond movies. with that said... I suspect ill be re-watching a fair amount of the Bond movies sometime this year or into the next as it's been a while (roughly 3+ years) since I have seen some of them. also, I think Craig has to be my all around favorite Bond actor based on Bond movie quality consistency as he's only had one slip with Quantum of Solace, which I still mildly like, where as the other three are within my Top 105 movies at the least with two of them being within my Top 26 movies straight up. but putting that aside... going by that whole all around charisma, say suave/tough combo balance(I talk more about this below), Connery is hard to argue against overall. But LTK is more enjoyable to watch for sure... -LTK (1989) - 7/10 -TLD (1987) - 5.5-6/10 (the last 45min or so noticeably damage the overall movie. in fact, currently, this is the worst Bond movie that I like as it places 14th and there are only 14 Bond movies I like out of the 25 of them) That was his main problem is he lacked charisma as he does not excel at being suave or tough as all of the other Bond actors do at least one of those two things well as ill make some comments on the whole suave/tough angle in relation to the Bond actors... -Connery - does suave and tough well. but he, like Brosnan, naturally ooze suaveness/charisma. -Lazenby - does not excel at being either suave or tough. but ill say this... he could have been worse. he's okay-ish and I do like his Bond movie and it never hurts that the Bond Girl (Diana Rigg) is one of the better ones of the series. -Moore - suave. Moore and Brosnan are the most similar but I feel Brosnan is more suave but Moore is tougher as Moore's slight issue with his suave angle is, like others say, he seems to be a bit more comedic. -Dalton - tough. but can be suave enough when needed. -Brosnan - suave. in terms of pure suaveness I would say he's arguably #1 of the Bond actors as I feel only Connery can challenge Brosnan in the suave dept. but ill say this... in terms of being tough I think Brosnan one of the least believable and may even be THE worst. but for the most part Brosnan/Moore would be the most similar of the Bond actors overall in that they are more suave oriented as while Connery is easily in the conversation in the suave dept, as he's arguably at the top like Brosnan is, he's got em beat all around when looking at suave/tough combo. -Craig - tough. Craig and Dalton are the most similar in that they are more about the brute force than being suave but can be suave enough when that's called for. Agreed on the game but only for nostalgia sake. I am sure it's not nearly as good today. but anyways... Die Another Day is not as bad as it's made out to be (in fact, it used to be one of the better Bond movie for me at one point in the past) as I think there are worse overall entries in the series as, at this point in time, out of the Bond movies I give a Thumbs Down, it's amongst the better Bond movies. p.s. for those who liked GoldenEye on N64 (video game) back in the day might be interested in this, which is free for the PC... www.geshl2.com/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 23:32:29 GMT
George Lazenby - Stiff performance Watched this again recently and that was my takeaway too. Stiff as a board. Horrible choice for the role, not sure what the thinking was, particularly as they downplayed him in the marketing for the film. Also, I couldn't even finish watching the movie. |
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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 9, 2018 23:36:58 GMT
Agreed, obviously. but I think that for the most part modern movies generally have better all around visuals than older movies. p.s. my bread-and-butter in terms of cinematography in general is... Road to Perdition (2002). because while there are a fair amount of other movies out there that have strong visuals to, they don't combine the great visuals with great moments in the movie along with a great score like that movie does. 
The final shot in Skyfall with Bond and M recalls this scene, which substitutes Javier Bardem for Jude Law.
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Post by mslo79 on May 9, 2018 23:51:00 GMT
@nxnwrocks
So you have seen it all in the past but could not finish it this time around?
for me... that movie grew on me with re-watches a bit as I remember at one point it was pretty average (5/10) for me overall but I gave it another chance or so and it grew on me and I like it. but I do think that movie has a fairly unique feel to it compared to the rest of the series back-in-the-day which some might see as bad thing or a good thing.
I have seen that movie three times in total so far... 2nd viewing was Oct 6th 2012 and 3rd viewing was April 29th 2015. my initial viewing was probably late 2000's (sometime before Dec 27th 2011 since that date on forward I started logging all movies I watch) as I would guesstimate 2008-2009 or so. it was probably one of the last, if not THE last, Bond movies I seen at the time because I think it took a while before I even knew that there was a official Bond movie between Connery/Moore.
p.s. one of the better things about it is Diana Rigg as I think she's one of the better (and hotter) Bond Girls.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 9, 2018 23:55:52 GMT
@nxnwrocks p.s. one of the better things about it is Diana Rigg as I think she's one of the better (and hotter) Bond Girls. Fiona Volpe, baby.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on May 9, 2018 23:56:17 GMT
Huge fan of the series! Love all the films except for Diamonds Are Forever and Quantum of Solace.
Top 10 Bond films
1. Licence to Kill
2. The World is Not Enough
3. For Your Eyes Only
4. Casino Royale
5. On her Majestys Secret Service
6. A View to a Kill
7. Goldfinger
8. From Russia with Love
9. Die Another Day
10. The Living Daylights
Bonds in order.
1.Brosnan
2.Connery
3.Moore
4.Dalton
5.Lazenby
6.Craig
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 0:04:48 GMT
Right then, eyes down for a full house:
Dr. No - a great start for the franchise. Love the story and the Jamaica setting, not to mention exotic Miss Taro. Downside - the fight with No is over too quickly.
From Russia With Love - bit boring, and twice the bad guys have Bond dead to rights and don't end him.
Goldfinger - this is my vote for best movie in the series - the gold standard, if you will. Great villain, great henchman. Memorable Bond girl. Some things don't add up, but it's a Bond movie, they rarely make sense.
Thunderball - total bore, as OP said, even Connery looks bored. WAAAAAAY too many underwater scenes.
You Only Live Twice - this is the most ridiculous example of how far-fetched the movies are (at least, until we get to Moonraker). Blofeld builds a secret base the size of an aircraft hanger under a lake, and no sod notices. Riiiiiiiiiiiight. The cop having his own train was dumb too. lolwat, what if you want to go in a different direction?
O.H.M.S.S. - Lazenby gives it his best try but he's out of his depth, and that takes the viewer out of the movie. The Blofeld's heraldry plot, and the allergy clinic are among the worst plotlines in the whole franchise.
Diamonds Are Forever - I don't really remember much about it other than the pink tie and the henchmen.
Live and Let Die - Blaxploitation was big at the time, so the franchise cashed in. Pretty poor showing but it holds up better than I remembered.
The Man With the Golden Gun - I don't like Christopher Lee in this, and the funhouse showdown is somewhat lame.
The Spy Who Loved Me - about average as far as the movies go. They definitely should have stayed with Jaws being menacing.
Moonraker - speaking of far-fetched, a private individual can finance multiple shuttle launches. The U.S. government lets him. Riiiiiiight. What they did to Jaws here was unforgivable.
For Your Eyes Only - my favorite Moore film. I love the storyline of the girl seeking revenge.
Octopussy - one of my least favorite entries, I just don't care for the plot at all.
A View to a Kill - this one is very enjoyable, with a lot of memorable scenes such as the fire truck. Walken and Jones make good villains.
The Living Daylights - last time I tried rewatching, I couldn't get through it. Dislike this, and hate Licence to Kill even more.
GoldenEye - the best Brosnan. Everything clicks right in this one, including that pen.
Tomorrow Never Dies - this is OK but not a strong entry. Pryce is a wimpy villain.
The World Is Not Enough - this one is a bit of a grower. I like the villain.
Die Another Day - almost the universal pick for worse film, it's definitely bad, but still watchable.
Casino Royale - poor villain - he cries blood! Ooh, scary! - and I really could do without the card game. Otherwise, very good.
Quantum of Solace - can barely remember anything about it, tbh.
Skyfall - Silva is an AWFUL villain and while I blame the writing mostly, I think Bardem shares some of the blame. I am not a huge fan of the extended ending. But I think this is one that might grow on me more as time goes on.
Spectre - pointless tracking shot, and the helicopter fight is boring and way too long. The film is insanely overlong, Blofeld is underused, wimpy ending. Bautista is a great henchman. Arguably he could have been in it more, but you don't want to overdo it.
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Post by fangirl1975 on May 10, 2018 1:03:33 GMT
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but Quantum Of Solace is the most underrated of Daniel Craig's Bond films.
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Post by mslo79 on May 10, 2018 4:23:33 GMT
fangirl1975well there are really only two choices for 'underrated' in relation to Craig's Bond movies given their average scores and general public praise etc... -Casino Royale (2006) - 8.0/10 average -Skyfall (2012) - 7.8/10 average -Spectre (2015) - 6.8/10 average -Quantum of Solace (2008) - 6.6/10 average so as you can see only Quantum of Solace/Spectre are really eligible for 'underrated' and I think Spectre is easily the better/more underrated of the two as Spectre is within my Top 105 movies where as while I like Quantum of Solace to, it's nothing special. here is my preference of the Craig era Bond movies... 1.Skyfall (2012) - 9/10 (within my Top 26 movies) 2.Casino Royale (I mainly gave Skyfall the edge over CR because my interest in the overall movie is more stable where as CR never really hit's it's stride til nearly 1 hour into the movie which is basically when Eva Green shows up) 3.Spectre (2015) - 7.5-8/10 (within my Top 105 movies) 4.Quantum of Solace (2008) - 6/10 (a mild Thumbs Up)
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Post by ck100 on May 10, 2018 5:23:47 GMT
I hear Craig is getting at least $25 million for his upcoming Bond film.
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Post by ck100 on May 10, 2018 5:24:28 GMT
I disagree about the 80's being a bad decade for Bond. For Your Eyes Only and Licence To Kill are top entries for Moore and Dalton.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 10, 2018 12:52:13 GMT
I got into Bond with the early gems, borrowing VHS from public library. Around the time I started reading film guides like Leonard Maltin's where choosing classic titles wasn't a crapshoot any longer.
I have a love-hate relationship with the series I guess... there are several completely unwatchables beginning with Diamonds are Forever which belongs in a junk pile with the likes of Superman IV & Batman & Robin.
My fanfic take on 007 btw is that time does pass, with new individuals tasked with the 007 gig. I know ppl hate that, yet it works for me cinematically. Brosnan Bond would have zero recollection of Connery Bond's exploits, & yet it's on the 007 resume as it were. Don't worry, I don't think that much into it.
Probably my most fluid top 10 list also, ask me in 3 weeks time & it's likely all shuffled up again...
1. From Russia With Love... my #28 all time, actually dare I say a very elegant & intelligent movie, 007 is merely a bonus.
2. Thunderball... the most cinematically pleasing, I love its wider shots & grander storyline. Caribbean setting is its bonus.
3. Quantum of Solace... as CR sequel it fails, as standalone 007 it's Craig's finest as he's in peak physical form (kinda like Harrison Ford was for Temple of Doom to help it). Awesome car chase, foot chase, boat chase, plane chase. Sexiest Bond girl ever not least she's fully capable heroine. Water angle still years ahead of its time & slick villainy is fun.
4. Goldfinger... like Thunderball except with more juvenile touches. I guess I've never truly embraced Bond as captive basically winning by accident - with only (forcibly) making out with Pussy as the turning point.
5. For Your Eyes Only.... pared down Moore, it's there & it's very good. Surely the driest film until Dalton, I like that rawness to it. Not sure why ppl hate on the younger blonde - she's the one doing all the flirting while Bond is ever trying to politely tell her gtfo.
6. Dr. No... still one of the more dare I say relaxing films. Simple & straight forward, so be it. Never takes itself too seriously. Dr. No himself isn't an action genius, so what, he's not really supposed to be. He's still the most sophisticated villain Bond has encountered.
7. On Her Majesty's Secret Service... forever more this film to me feels like it was made in the 1950's or even 40's. Something about the horse drawn sleigh, the throwback winter village, & I'm not sure any sci-fi angles to speak of other than the brainwashing stuff? Lazenby is fine, haters gonna hate. Connery might've chewed his way through & diluted its impact.
8. You Only Live Twice... obvious racial silliness aside, it's less bloated than most. Its only hitch for me would be complete mis-casting for Blofeld, who should be more like Telly Savalas. Actually, Largo from Thunderball is better than any Blofeld.
9. Casino Royale... it feels kinda dated to me lately & Eva Green's weird smirks aren't my favs. Still, I like its pared down action & that it ends as a poker match is great.
10.GoldenEye... my fav opening sequence. Dated, yet in a good nostalgic way. Sean Bean helps a lot.
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