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Post by dirtypillows on May 11, 2018 6:11:15 GMT
during the chest bursting scene ....is soooooo freaky and wild, I LOVE IT!
Also, the way she splutters her hands and fingers when she is sprayed with John Hurt's blood. I think she is fascinating. I just love her voice.
Anybody else find her utterance of above line uniquely compelling?
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 14, 2018 11:11:30 GMT
Cartwright has always been a real and believable in the moment actress. You can sense her fear, without the over-the-top and phony hysterics\histrionics that can ruin many scardy cat performances.
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Post by maxwellperfect on May 14, 2018 14:17:43 GMT
Yes, absolutely!
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on May 14, 2018 15:02:27 GMT
She is perfect in Alien, and has delivered some realistic performances in other movies too. She was a child actress in The Birds and Spencer's Mountain and as adult she excels in roles that require her to get hysterical. Check her out in Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) or The Witches of Eastwick (1987) for even more Cartwright intensity.   |
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Post by dirtypillows on May 15, 2018 19:57:30 GMT
Cartwright has always been a real and believable in the moment actress. You can sense her fear, without the over-the-top and phony hysterics\histrionics that can ruin many scardy cat performances. , without the over-the-top and phony hysterics\histrionics Absolutely. When she is cornered by the alien later on, her fear is so intense and believable that the scene scared me. In other words, I thought her fear was more frightening and intense than the creature's presence. The look on her face, you just want to save her but you know she is doomed. I would have frozen on the spot, too, I am sure. I have read before that the Lambert character is supposed to represent the audience, as she was the one who responded the way that most people in real life would have responded. And Veronica Cartwright is a GREAT screamer. She definitely gave the best performance in "The Birds", I thought. She is every bit as good in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Her character was the smartest, most resourceful and most likable one of the bunch. That ending scene, when she approaches Donald Sutherland with that little, secret smile on her face... I never went from relief and happiness to dread and terror in an instant. What an intense ending! I wanted so badly for both of them to have escaped the phenomenon, that way they'd have each other as buddies and could rely on each other. (I like Donald Sutherland as an actor, in general) But, no. It was not to be. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 16, 2018 12:02:10 GMT
Cartwright has always been a real and believable in the moment actress. You can sense her fear, without the over-the-top and phony hysterics\histrionics that can ruin many scardy cat performances. , without the over-the-top and phony hysterics\histrionics Absolutely. When she is cornered by the alien later on, her fear is so intense and believable that the scene scared me. In other words, I thought her fear was more frightening and intense than the creature's presence. The look on her face, you just want to save her but you know she is doomed. I would have frozen on the spot, too, I am sure. I have read before that the Lambert character is supposed to represent the audience, as she was the one who responded the way that most people in real life would have responded. And Veronica Cartwright is a GREAT screamer. She definitely gave the best performance in "The Birds", I thought. She is every bit as good in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Her character was the smartest, most resourceful and most likable one of the bunch. That ending scene, when she approaches Donald Sutherland with that little, secret smile on her face... I never went from relief and happiness to dread and terror in an instant. What an intense ending! I wanted so badly for both of them to have escaped the phenomenon, that way they'd have each other as buddies and could rely on each other. (I like Donald Sutherland as an actor, in general) But, no. It was not to be. If I recall correctly a brief conversation when I was young, Cartwright was related to my next door neighbors when I was growing up. Distant cousins perhaps. I really don't think she was utilized as well as she could have been. She has an extensive filmography, but many appear to be bit parts. I think she does stage as well. She apparently didn't like the emotional weakness of Lambert's character. She had auditioned for Ripley, as the trivia in IMDB states. She is always an asset to the films she has appeared in, in more substantial roles. |
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Post by 博: Dr.BLΔD€ :锯 on Feb 8, 2019 20:50:59 GMT
As fab as Veronica i was, I had at some point gathered that some of the cast may not have been completely acting during this scene.
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/john-hurt-dead-alien-chestburster-scene-ridley-scott-true-story-a7550656.html
Check out this below.
Ron Shusett (executive producer/ screenwriter): Ridley didn't tell the cast. He said, "They're just going to see it."
Sigourney Weaver (Ripley): They were crafty. They pitched the story so that you feel John Hurt's character would be the only true hero among us. Cartwright: They take John down in the morning to prep him and we're upstairs for four hours. We're sitting upstairs and nobody knows what the hell is going on. Harry Dean [Stanton] is sitting in the hall playing his guitar. Weaver: All it said in the script was, "This thing emerges." Scott: Prosthetics in those days weren't that good. I figured the best thing to do was to get stuff from a butcher's shop and a fishmonger. On the morning we had them examining the Facehugger; that was clams, oysters, seafood. You had to be ready to shoot because it started to smell pretty quickly. You can't make better stuff than that - it's organic. Dan O'Bannon (executive producer/screenwriter): Once the creature was rigged up, they stuffed the chest cavity full of organs from the butcher's. Then they ran a couple of big hoses to pump the stage blood. During all this Ridley moved about, tending to the finest detail. I remember easily half an hour was spent with him draping this little piece of beef organ so it would hang out of the creature's mouth. Scott: We had an artificial chest screwed to the table. John was underneath: it was an illusion his neck was attached to the body. Cartwright: When they finally take us down, the whole set is in a big plastic bag and everybody is wearing raingear and there are huge buckets around. The formaldehyde smell automatically made you queasy. And John is lying there. Weaver: Everyone was wearing raincoats - we should have been a little suspicious. And, oh God, the smell. It was just awful. Shusett: He had four cameras running. Two guys, technicians, were under the table with a compressed blood machine. Nobody said a word, but Sigourney looked really scared. I said, "You're really getting into character." She said, "No, I have a feeling I'm going to be pretty repulsed right now." Yaphet Kotto (Parker): We were all wondering what the hell was going on. Why is the crew looking at us the way they're looking at us right now? Why are they wearing plastic shields? Cartwright: They have four cameras going. You see this thing start to come out, so we all get sucked in, we lean forward to check it out. They shout, "Cut!" They cut John's T-shirt a little more because it wasn't going to burst through. Then they said, "Let's start again." We all start leaning forward again and all of a sudden it comes out. I tell you, none of us expected it. It came out and twisted round. Weaver: All I could think of was John, frankly. I wasn't even thinking that we were making a movie. Ivor Powell (associate producer): I hadn't expected it to be quite that intense. Weaver: Look, I worked with Roman Polanski on Death and the Maiden - he would shoot a gun off. You can act, sure, but when you're surprised, that's gold. Shusett: Veronica Cartwright - when the blood hit her, she passed out. I heard from Yaphet Kotto's wife that after that scene he went to his room and wouldn't talk to anybody. Kotto: Oh man! It was real, man. We didn't see that coming. We were freaked. The actors were all frightened. And Veronica nutted out. O'Bannon: This jet of blood, about 3ft long, caught her smack in the kisser.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Feb 8, 2019 21:25:07 GMT
One of the great performances in that film.
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Post by Archelaus on Feb 8, 2019 22:46:00 GMT
I love her performance in the film.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🎄😷🎄 on Feb 8, 2019 23:01:12 GMT
She deserved an even better career. Maybe she's content with it, but she could have done bigger things, I thought.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 8, 2019 23:09:04 GMT
She did look freaked out-probably because she was sprayed with real blood? lol
Tom Skeritt looked genuinely shocked too.
It's funny with Hurt because only a few years earlier in I, Claudius he eats a baby out of a woman's chest. Guess this was payback time.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 8, 2019 23:20:29 GMT
Come to think of it
she is famous for the Birds, Alien and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
That's about it that stands out?
It's like she "did a Pamela Franklin" but not actually retiring. In PF's case she had lead roles so maybe she didn't want to bother with smaller stuff. Cartwright wasn't so fussy.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Feb 9, 2019 1:40:47 GMT
Did you know that cast was actually caught completely off guard with how the film crew did the Chestbursting Moment right in front of them ?
Apparently, Yaphet Kotto (Parker) was the one that was most affected by it. His wife said that after he was finished working on that same day, he went home and once he got there, he locked himself in a room with the light off and quietly just stayed there for a few hours.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Feb 9, 2019 2:45:55 GMT
I guess Cartwright didn't seek the limelight and would have made movies to make some income when they were offered to her. I also feel that due to the era she was from, she perhaps wasn't given the recognition she deserved for her acting ability, perhaps because she didn't have a big ego. She in a sense started out big with her roles in Wyler's The Children's Hour - 61' and Hitchcock's The Birds - 63' and worked with masters. As she got older, she also wouldn't have been considered much of a looker either.
Today, it would be different and nice that in hindsight, we can look at these performances of hers and see that as a genuine, real and in the moment actress, she runs rings around some of the more popular and well known actresses.
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