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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 25, 2018 3:49:46 GMT
No, the voice is great, anthonyrocks . It just sounds like Freddy Krueger’s in this one. What I was laughing at was the methods this time around, not the voice. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 25, 2018 3:50:28 GMT
I never saw this twist with Rory Culkin coming. Wow. That was good.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 25, 2018 4:00:25 GMT
God, this is dumb. Why do I watch this stuff?
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 25, 2018 4:15:27 GMT
Dear God it was dumb. If I were reviewing it Siskel and Ebert-style, I’d have to give it a thumbs-down. What’s weird is that it didn’t really feel like it had scale to it: it seems like it was shot on a shoestring budget in someone’s backyard. And its budget was $40 million. By comparison, the first two movies seemed like they actually had scale and tone, and were made for $14 and $24 million respectively.
Also, there’s so much in this script that just goes nowhere. Everything’s set up, and there’s hardly resolution, and poor Neve Campbell, who has always had a Jamie Lee Curtis vibe (probably why she was chosen as the lead in the first place) and who deserves so much better than these movies, gets nothing to do.
But I do wish Kevin Williamson had gotten his planned script for Scream 3 made. It had a twist that recalled Sherlock Holmes and the House of Fear, Inspector Hornleigh on Holiday, and an unproduced Charlie Chan. Better twist than Scream 4, too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 6:28:45 GMT
Only peripherally related to the thread topic, but I always want to give a lot of credit to screenwriter Kevin Williamson. Both Screams I’ve seen are really well-plotted, complete with clues that become obvious on a second viewing. (The double-bluff in Scream is very effective, though it’s a little negated when Billy reveals he was merely “harmed,” not killed.) Not many screenwriters, especially on slasher films, are that clever about their scripts. Kinda annoyed his script for Scream 3 wasn’t used, as I think it would have been really effective. It’s kind of weird, too, because there’s a script for a Charlie Chan movie in the 30s that uses the exact same twist— and was also never produced. The closest thing I can think of is a twist used in Inspector Hornleigh on Holiday (’39) and The House of Fear (’45), but it’s not actually that close. OK, musings over. What did you think of " SCREAM 4" ? I Absolutely Loved It!  I know that it was also written by Kevin Williamson except for the ending at the Hospital which was written by Ehren Kruger and had 1 of the Best Lines (to me at least) out of the whole entire franchise and that line was "You Forgot The First Rule of Remakes Jill, Don't #### With The Original!". Though he didn't seem to notice, that line of dialogue is a tad revealing to share with someone who just said they'd only seen two of the four films. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 23:03:49 GMT
Nalkarj woo, lot to unpack here. Are you talking about the twist where everyone faked their death or whatever? I know there's a similar twist in April Fool's Day. Some of his Scream 3 ideas were adapted into the show The Following (specifically Stu leading a cult from behind bars). One thing is for sure, his twists probably would have been better than 3's actual twist. Also, the Psycho books. I see the similarities to Scream 3 based on "Norman" killing the filmmakers of a Psycho movie, although I think Scream 3 was probably cribbing more from Craven's own New Nightmare. How's Psycho House compare? Can't find a plot synopsis. And yes, with you on Scream 4.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 26, 2018 3:23:00 GMT
Thanks, @moviebuffbrad. Yeah, I inadvertently turned it into another play-by-play. Sorry about that. Yeah. I hadn’t thought about April Fool’s Day—I always associate it not with the “everyone’s alive” twist but with the “the whole thing’s a prank” twist—but you’re right about that. April Fool’s Day, by the way, has a lot of key similarities with an Ellery Queen story also set on April Fool’s Day, mixed up with And Then There Were None. I don’t know if the writers had read that, but it’s close. Scream 3 I’ve still only seen parts of, not the whole thing (yet). But I’ve heard it’s supposed to be the weakest of the lot. I haven’t actually read the Psycho sequels either, just (as I mentioned) plot-synopses, so I was asking as much as commenting. But the plots seem really close. I’ll chime back in when I get a chance to read them. It was a bit of a disappointment because 1 is a fun movie, and 2 is really good filmmaking. |
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