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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 13:28:42 GMT
I don't know if everybody has heard yet but the Longbow Hunters were recently mentioned in 'Arrow' and it appears it is more than just a mention like they had with Bruce Wayne and Marc has confirmed the Longbow Hunters are coming to 'Arrow' next season and are going to be the main villains. What are your thoughts on this addition to the show and are you looking forward to seeing them? Also what members do you think are going to appear?  ‘Arrow’: Who Are The Longbow Hunters?
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Post by General Kenobi on May 20, 2018 13:14:01 GMT
Because that's what's going to keep fans of the comics around. Watering down and butchering one of Green Arrow's great stories.
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Post by BexxyJ on May 22, 2018 14:14:34 GMT
Why are they called the longbow hunters? Are their bows longer than Oliver's?  |
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Post by General Kenobi on May 22, 2018 19:37:29 GMT
Y'know, I don't think that every comes up in the comic.
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Post by stargazer1682 on May 22, 2018 19:53:54 GMT
Clearly Oliver's pack the shortbow, with those leather pants we'd know otherwise....
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 12:24:30 GMT
Why are they called the longbow hunters? Are their bows longer than Oliver's?  |
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Post by BexxyJ on May 30, 2018 8:47:02 GMT
Why are they called the longbow hunters? Are their bows longer than Oliver's? The Riddler is a Green Arrow villain too? It's the green isn't it?  Ed doesn't like having another person who wears green so he's out to get him. What does he do to the Green Arrow? Does he make him solve riddles too or does he keep them for Batman?  Isn't it too soon to use Riddler in Arrow with Gotham still on? There is one more season left. |
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Post by General Kenobi on May 31, 2018 18:21:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 13:22:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 13:30:32 GMT
I looked into it and I can't find anything in regards to why DC decided to call them the Longbow Hunters and what is even more confusing is a number of the members in the group don't even use bows like Killer Moth but from what I can gather it is unlikely the group are going to have the same lineup they did in the comic books in 'Arrow' 'cause one of them is already dead and two of the others are in prison so they might go with Killer Moth, Red Dart and some other DC villains they haven't used before like Onomatopoeia, Limelight, Hellgrammite and Bull's Eye who is like the Green Arrow's version of the Joker. Of course, they might use Batman villains instead since there is no shortage of them and with 'Gotham' ending they might as well use the Riddler since he is a Green Arrow villain too. The Riddler is a Green Arrow villain too? It's the green isn't it? Ed doesn't like having another person who wears green so he's out to get him. What does he do to the Green Arrow? Does he make him solve riddles too or does he keep them for Batman? Isn't it too soon to use Riddler in Arrow with Gotham still on? There is one more season left.  
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 6, 2018 13:45:06 GMT
Personally, I think The Riddler and Lady Shiva are too good to waste on Arrow. Because I can see something dumb with Nygma respecting Felicity and one of the B squaders easily defeating Shiva.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 12:02:25 GMT
Personally, I think The Riddler and Lady Shiva are too good to waste on Arrow. Because I can see something dumb with Nygma respecting Felicity and one of the B squaders easily defeating Shiva.  |
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Post by BexxyJ on Jun 11, 2018 14:04:42 GMT
The Riddler is a Green Arrow villain too? It's the green isn't it? Ed doesn't like having another person who wears green so he's out to get him. What does he do to the Green Arrow? Does he make him solve riddles too or does he keep them for Batman? Isn't it too soon to use Riddler in Arrow with Gotham still on? There is one more season left.
It says something about these superheroes when their bad guys have been villans for all of them. What? One can't defeat them so another one has to try and then another one?  Why couldn't Batman defeat the Riddler? He doesn't look like a hard guy to defeat.  |
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jun 11, 2018 15:17:07 GMT
That's one of the things the movies and even the tv shows never bother addressing; which is the recurring nature of some of these characters, namely the villains. Sure, it seems like a joke that the Riddler or the Joker should be stopped by someone like Batman only to be able to come back and do it all again in perpetuity, but the other extreme has been to do their story once, often beating it to death and then some in shows like Arrow or Flash, and then ending their story permanently, generally by killing them; which just sort of squanders the story potential of these characters and the rivalry and history between them and the protagonists.
It shouldn't be easy for these criminals to escape and terrorize their towns every other week, but a tv show isn't going to be around nearly as long as the comics have, so these characters finding their way back a few times over the course of an entire series shouldn't be that much of a stretch to make work in a believable way; between coordinated prison breaks either from the inside, by criminals too smart for ordinary prisons, or from the outside by new villains wanting to make use of these other antagonists who can cause chaos in the heroes life, to just simply being paroled, because they aren't all necessarily psychopathic killers or need to be.
Personally, I really liked the take in the comics where they briefly had Riddler reformed and had him working as a private investigator. I thought that really worked well for the character and was very disappointed when they had him go back to being a villain.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 13:45:15 GMT
I suppose I wouldn't specifically call him a 'Green Arrow' villain 'cause he is more of a 'Batman' villain and debuted in 'Batman' but he is a villain of Green Arrow's and has appeared in a number of the 'Green Arrow' comic books. Some villains like Deathstroke, Deadshot, Solomon Grundy, Poison Ivy, Lady Shiva, Prometheus etc have moved around a lot over the years and appeared as villains for multiple superheroes and the Riddler is one of them and I don't think they will be able to use him next season 'cause it sounds like they have big plans for him in 'Gotham' now but Season 8 or 9 could be a different story depending on how long the show goes for. There are still a lot of villains they haven't had in the 'Arrowverse' that could be great in the shows if handled right and even though we are getting Lady Shiva in 'Gotham' she should appear in 'Arrow' at some point too. Ohh and they don't say the green is the problem but I think it is one of them.
It says something about these superheroes when their bad guys have been villans for all of them. What? One can't defeat them so another one has to try and then another one? Why couldn't Batman defeat the Riddler? He doesn't look like a hard guy to defeat. That's one of the things the movies and even the tv shows never bother addressing; which is the recurring nature of some of these characters, namely the villains. Sure, it seems like a joke that the Riddler or the Joker should be stopped by someone like Batman only to be able to come back and do it all again in perpetuity, but the other extreme has been to do their story once, often beating it to death and then some in shows like Arrow or Flash, and then ending their story permanently, generally by killing them; which just sort of squanders the story potential of these characters and the rivalry and history between them and the protagonists. It shouldn't be easy for these criminals to escape and terrorize their towns every other week, but a tv show isn't going to be around nearly as long as the comics have, so these characters finding their way back a few times over the course of an entire series shouldn't be that much of a stretch to make work in a believable way; between coordinated prison breaks either from the inside, by criminals too smart for ordinary prisons, or from the outside by new villains wanting to make use of these other antagonists who can cause chaos in the heroes life, to just simply being paroled, because they aren't all necessarily psychopathic killers or need to be. Personally, I really liked the take in the comics where they briefly had Riddler reformed and had him working as a private investigator. I thought that really worked well for the character and was very disappointed when they had him go back to being a villain.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 13, 2018 13:48:08 GMT
Yeah it's hard to make something unrealistic look realistic without hurting something in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 7:55:41 GMT
Yeah it's hard to make something unrealistic look realistic without hurting something in the process.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 18, 2018 16:41:18 GMT
And sometimes reality is unrealistic. But if you try to do that in film and television people call you out for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 12:34:05 GMT
And sometimes reality is unrealistic. But if you try to do that in film and television people call you out for it.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 23, 2018 13:15:04 GMT
We all make our own reality.
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Ed doesn't like having another person who wears green so he's out to get him. What does he do to the Green Arrow? Does he make him solve riddles too or does he keep them for Batman? 
Why couldn't Batman defeat the Riddler? He doesn't look like a hard guy to defeat. 