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Post by DC-Fan on May 24, 2018 17:29:41 GMT
Obviously not The First Avenger, since Steve Rogers didn't sacrifice himself in that movie. He tried to No, he knew with the super-PED that he took, he would probably survive the crash. He might have a few broken bones and minor bruises, but he knew he would probably survive the crash. everybody assumed he was dead. Not SHIELD. They dug him up. Because they also knew with the super-PED that Steve Rogers took, he would probably be able to survive the crash. So Steve Rogers really didn't make any sacrifice. Also, given the fact that Steve Rogers is not only alive but living in a world that now has Internet and cell phones and many other technology that wasn't around in the 1940s, it's insulting to all the soldiers who did die fighting for their country in war to say that Steve Rogers made a sacrifice.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 24, 2018 18:17:28 GMT
No, he knew with the super-PED that he took, he would probably survive the crash. He might have a few broken bones and minor bruises, but he knew he would probably survive the crash. everybody assumed he was dead. Not SHIELD. They dug him up. Because they also knew with the super-PED that Steve Rogers took, he would probably be able to survive the crash. So Steve Rogers really didn't make any sacrifice. Also, given the fact that Steve Rogers is not only alive but living in a world that now has Internet and cell phones and many other technology that wasn't around in the 1940s, it's insulting to all the soldiers who did die fighting for their country in war to say that Steve Rogers made a sacrifice. No he didn't. SHIELD didn't know he survived till they found the aircraft, discovered his body, and operated on him to see if there was still live in there. Before said events he was long thought to be dead. Pay better attention next time, going back to school might help you focus better - surprising you actually attended school and graduated before though.
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Post by sostie on May 24, 2018 19:07:12 GMT
One of the many, many similarities What similarities? Steve Trevor makes the ultimate sacrifice to save thousands, possibly millions of lives. Steve Rogers lives and makes no sacrifice. How is that similar? How about these for similarities.. A comic book hero created just before the US entry into World War 2, with superhuman abilities, carrying a shield, leads a multi-cultural team of soldiers (who at one point are all in London where they go to a local pub) in an attempt to defeat the Germans during a World War. The main villain and their scientist (who eventually turn against and kill their "superiors") are developing a super weapon. The superhuman falls in love with an Allied agent in the process, but one of the happy couple dies when they sacrifice themselves whilst destroying an aeroplane that is carrying said weapon. As for the sacrifice....you continue to ignore THE FACT that nowhere does the definition of "sacrifice" mean that someone must die.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 24, 2018 19:27:51 GMT
What similarities? Steve Trevor makes the ultimate sacrifice to save thousands, possibly millions of lives. Steve Rogers lives and makes no sacrifice. How is that similar? How about these for similarities.. A comic book hero created just before the US entry into World War 2, with superhuman abilities, carrying a shield, leads a multi-cultural team of soldiers (who at one point are all in London where they go to a local pub) in an attempt to defeat the Germans during a World War. The main villain and their scientist (who eventually turn against and kill their "superiors") are developing a super weapon. The superhuman falls in love with an Allied agent in the process, but one of the happy couple dies when they sacrifice themselves whilst destroying an aeroplane that is carrying said weapon. As for the sacrifice....you continue to ignore THE FACT that nowhere does the definition of "sacrifice" mean that someone must die. And Steve Rogers absolutely expected to be killed in that crash. You're arguing with an imbecile, there's a reason I blocked him.
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Post by James on May 25, 2018 1:25:54 GMT
Probably at 6th spot if it were in the MCU. Isn't as good as Iron Man, The Avengers, TWS, Civil War or IW, but better than all of the others.
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Post by merh on May 25, 2018 2:43:20 GMT
Where does it rank? Id say WW is better than at least a third of the MCU. What say YOU? It felt like it stole heavily from First Avenger with a healthy dose of Thor's fish out of water
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 25, 2018 4:44:19 GMT
Where does it rank? Id say WW is better than at least a third of the MCU. What say YOU? It felt like it stole heavily from First Avenger with a healthy dose of Thor's fish out of water What details would you cite to support this claim?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 4:50:06 GMT
Where does it rank? Id say WW is better than at least a third of the MCU. What say YOU? It felt like it stole heavily from First Avenger with a healthy dose of Thor's fish out of water There certainly are similarities but I'm completely ok with that. I don't think it stole from either. Certainly not from Thor. There are tons of fish out of water stories. Thor learns humility in his origin movie, WW has a totally different arc. And Cap's origin and WW are just similar in certain ways. No way around that.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 25, 2018 5:35:21 GMT
It felt like it stole heavily from First Avenger with a healthy dose of Thor's fish out of water What details would you cite to support this claim? Nah, there's no support.
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Post by merh on May 25, 2018 8:28:41 GMT
It felt like it stole heavily from First Avenger with a healthy dose of Thor's fish out of water What details would you cite to support this claim? Someone named Steve sacrificing himself flying a plane away from people. They really should have found another way out. Not to mention it was a Chris. What the hell? Copying Marvel's Chris army? Going to a bar to put together the crew. Yes, smaller crew, but... The horse riding bit threw back to Steve's motorcycle stuff. One could argue some similarity to the god fight, but Loki is so much more of a superior character. Wonder Woman never interested me. I always preferred Supergirl. I remember trying to watch Wonder Woman in the 70s, but it never really interested me. No such problem with The Hulk, but I really liked Bill Bixby. Point being, its a hard sell to me to like the character. I'm in "looking to pick apart" mode rather than just enjoying the movie mode.
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Post by politicidal on May 25, 2018 13:07:58 GMT
Better than half the MCU which are mostly a solid 7 or 7.5 for me. The third act is messy and the villain is 'meh' but it still feels epic and Gal Gadot is such a good fit for the character.
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Post by Skaathar on May 25, 2018 14:06:03 GMT
Probably at 6th spot if it were in the MCU. Isn't as good as Iron Man, The Avengers, TWS, Civil War or IW, but better than all of the others. You consider it better than BP?
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Post by James on May 25, 2018 21:56:57 GMT
Probably at 6th spot if it were in the MCU. Isn't as good as Iron Man, The Avengers, TWS, Civil War or IW, but better than all of the others. You consider it better than BP? Yeah.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 26, 2018 0:06:27 GMT
Probably at 6th spot if it were in the MCU. Isn't as good as Iron Man, The Avengers, TWS, Civil War or IW, but better than all of the others. You consider it better than BP? Yes, Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 26, 2018 0:51:26 GMT
You consider it better than BP? Yes, Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther. He didn’t ask for your opinion. Never seen BP by the way.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on May 27, 2018 0:59:43 GMT
You consider it better than BP? Yes, Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther. BP is better than Wonder Woman and RottenTomatoes confirms that
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