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Post by captainbryce on Sept 12, 2017 11:22:20 GMT
I would guess a negative correlation! It makes no sense though, even if you are sceptical of the science (which there's really no reason to be, but whatever) is it really worth gambling on? Also, you get the benefit of clean energy, surely they don't doubt that emissions from petrol and diesel engines are toxic. Plus it will hopefully undermine the power and influence of the oil producing countries and their toxic effects on us all, I'd love to tell the Saudis, Texans etc to FOAD. "The land is for the living" ~Thomas Jefferson People who use concern for the future of their kids as an excuse are fooling themselves. Humans just don't think that way. Evolution hasn't wired us for long term goal setting. Your kids are a rationalization, and a silly one. It's easy to prove. Has global warming caused us to tend more toward saving rather than spending? General Electric is making a killing on green consumer goods. Suddenly it's not so obvious that you are taking cold showers and riding a bike to work on behalf of their future environment. It's much more likely you're doing it as a purely selfish act, polishing your own ego. This is what religious people do when they condemn themselves to lives of modesty. How else could someone be so smug as to think that belief in a technical issue like global warming ought rightly to do with the empathy that comes from having kids? Empathy is up there with self esteem as the biggest problem with modern temperaments. We have too much empathy. We aren't able to distance ourselves from a situation and analyze it objectively. You mentioned reason, yet your post if devoid of it. It's full of emotion. You're not rebelling against Texans. You're a slut for BP. The rest is marketing. Do you actually have kids? |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 12, 2017 12:14:54 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Sept 14, 2017 5:57:53 GMT
I am not worried about it at all (sure, cut back on pollution where you reasonably can but i would definitely not obsess over it like the left does). It's far exaggerated to say the least as some seem to think the planet will be screwed in say 50-100 years which i think is BS.
personally i think the planet just goes in cycles as it's not like a bit of pollution in say roughly the last couple hundred years from man is suddenly going to screw up the planet to any significant degree. also, the planet has been around a long time... do they really know the planet is going to be screwed in the not too distant future or is it mostly a guess? (i am sure there is stuff in the past that scientists etc were wrong about) ; because how long have they been monitoring actual data on that stuff and even if that suggest it might be real, ain't there still a reasonable chance they could be wrong? ; like can they say with certainty (or near certainty) that the planet is going to be THAT bad in say 50-100 years from now?
hell, even if this 'climate change' stuff is real and will have a big negative effect on the planet in the long run and is caused by mans pollution etc... what can we really do about it? ; like is it even realistic to change things enough to really help long term?
p.s. if you notice it's only the left that freaks out about it and they tend to be backwards most of the time. people like Al Gore are making a ton of $$$ from it so naturally he's going to heavily promote it on that alone regardless if it's real or not.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Sept 14, 2017 10:36:24 GMT
I am not worried about it at all (sure, cut back on pollution where you reasonably can but i would definitely not obsess over it like the left does). It's far exaggerated to say the least as some seem to think the planet will be screwed in say 50-100 years which i think is BS. personally i think the planet just goes in cycles as it's not like a bit of pollution in say roughly the last couple hundred years from man is suddenly going to screw up the planet to any significant degree. also, the planet has been around a long time... do they really know the planet is going to be screwed in the not too distant future or is it mostly a guess? (i am sure there is stuff in the past that scientists etc were wrong about) ; because how long have they been monitoring actual data on that stuff and even if that suggest it might be real, ain't there still a reasonable chance they could be wrong? ; like can they say with certainty (or near certainty) that the planet is going to be THAT bad in say 50-100 years from now? hell, even if this 'climate change' stuff is real and will have a big negative effect on the planet in the long run and is caused by mans pollution etc... what can we really do about it? ; like is it even realistic to change things enough to really help long term? p.s. if you notice it's only the left that freaks out about it and they tend to be backwards most of the time. people like Al Gore are making a ton of $$$ from it so naturally he's going to heavily promote it on that alone regardless if it's real or not. So let's get this straight: we are not to worry about climate change because it won't affect our generation much and only the left seems to care about the planet?
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Sept 14, 2017 11:53:52 GMT
I am not worried about it at all (sure, cut back on pollution where you reasonably can but i would definitely not obsess over it like the left does). It's far exaggerated to say the least as some seem to think the planet will be screwed in say 50-100 years which i think is BS. personally i think the planet just goes in cycles as it's not like a bit of pollution in say roughly the last couple hundred years from man is suddenly going to screw up the planet to any significant degree. also, the planet has been around a long time... do they really know the planet is going to be screwed in the not too distant future or is it mostly a guess? (i am sure there is stuff in the past that scientists etc were wrong about) ; because how long have they been monitoring actual data on that stuff and even if that suggest it might be real, ain't there still a reasonable chance they could be wrong? ; like can they say with certainty (or near certainty) that the planet is going to be THAT bad in say 50-100 years from now? hell, even if this 'climate change' stuff is real and will have a big negative effect on the planet in the long run and is caused by mans pollution etc... what can we really do about it? ; like is it even realistic to change things enough to really help long term? p.s. if you notice it's only the left that freaks out about it and they tend to be backwards most of the time. people like Al Gore are making a ton of $$$ from it so naturally he's going to heavily promote it on that alone regardless if it's real or not. Your personal opinions about science vs. actual science, damn, I wonder who wins that battle. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2017 12:10:19 GMT
I am not worried about it at all (sure, cut back on pollution where you reasonably can but i would definitely not obsess over it like the left does). It's far exaggerated to say the least as some seem to think the planet will be screwed in say 50-100 years which i think is BS. personally i think the planet just goes in cycles as it's not like a bit of pollution in say roughly the last couple hundred years from man is suddenly going to screw up the planet to any significant degree. also, the planet has been around a long time... do they really know the planet is going to be screwed in the not too distant future or is it mostly a guess? (i am sure there is stuff in the past that scientists etc were wrong about) ; because how long have they been monitoring actual data on that stuff and even if that suggest it might be real, ain't there still a reasonable chance they could be wrong? ; like can they say with certainty (or near certainty) that the planet is going to be THAT bad in say 50-100 years from now? hell, even if this 'climate change' stuff is real and will have a big negative effect on the planet in the long run and is caused by mans pollution etc... what can we really do about it? ; like is it even realistic to change things enough to really help long term? p.s. if you notice it's only the left that freaks out about it and they tend to be backwards most of the time. people like Al Gore are making a ton of $$$ from it so naturally he's going to heavily promote it on that alone regardless if it's real or not. Your personal opinions about science vs. actual science, damn, I wonder who wins that battle. Coming from Mr. Peer Review here, I must presume that actual science is the new euphemism for gangster science. |
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Sept 14, 2017 12:12:57 GMT
Your personal opinions about science vs. actual science, damn, I wonder who wins that battle. Coming from Mr. Peer Review here, I must presume that actual science is the new euphemism for gangster science. Goddamn gangster scientists, using the scientific method like Al Capone's men used tommy guns. Somebody should do something about this shit! |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 14, 2017 12:25:57 GMT
Coming from Mr. Peer Review here, I must presume that actual science is the new euphemism for gangster science. Goddamn gangster scientists, using the scientific method like Al Capone's men used tommy guns. Somebody should do something about this shit! Yeah, somebody should cut off their funding. |
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Sept 14, 2017 12:37:43 GMT
Goddamn gangster scientists, using the scientific method like Al Capone's men used tommy guns. Somebody should do something about this shit! Yeah, somebody should cut off their funding. "Scientists should lose their jobs because I don't understand anything about what they're researching." |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 14, 2017 15:45:37 GMT
1. Is it going to kill us?  2. Should I cancel my swimming lesson on Friday? 3. Will the MLB season still start in April, or is that cancelled? 4. Can I still have my dinner party on Sunday evening? 5. Is the world as we know it going to end? 
Why should we be worried about global warming? Wow. What a SELFISH thought process you have there.
What about future generations? What about what its going to do to your children, and their children? What about what its doing RIGHT NOW to areas that are below sea level? What about what its doing right now to animal life?
What we do to the environment TOTALLY has a direct and IMMEDIATE link to us. Why do you think most companies have accepted that its bad practice to dump chemicals in rivers and such? Because, they know that it was creating high cancer rates in many communities. etc.
Get outside your own bubble a little. You don't live alone.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 14, 2017 15:46:52 GMT
You must be one of those frothing at the mouth liberals I hear so much about. You must be one of those ignorant stupid ass conservatives I hear so much about. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 14, 2017 15:48:16 GMT
oh i dunno. maybe some of us actually care about the world we live in. and aren't just looking to systematically rape every resource as we plunder each other's sovereignty. I'm looking for replies from sane people only. Thanks though. That's funny, since you're insane. Or at the very least a denier. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 14, 2017 15:58:15 GMT
A) The planet is a little bit like a living body in that it can heal itself if we stop fucking with it. If you have a cut on your body do you keep cutting it or do you put a band aid on it with with some Neosporin and let it heal? Fucking duh
B) You're denying what TONS of scientists are agreeing is happening and we're the backwards ones?! WTF? You would have to be stupid on a galactic scale to believe that THAT MANY SCIENTISTS ALL OVER THE WORLD are in a conspiracy to lie about it. On a GALACTIC SCALE!
C) Al Gore actually makes very little money on the subject. He keeps enough to continue spreading the word. Don't confuse making movies to get the word out there with making money. He and Leonardo DiCpario both donate the money their movies make.
You need to do a little research, and not just tow the alt-right line on this. This is too important an issue to believe just one side.
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Post by rizdek on Sept 14, 2017 22:22:18 GMT
1. Is it going to kill us? 2. Should I cancel my swimming lesson on Friday? 3. Will the MLB season still start in April, or is that cancelled? 4. Can I still have my dinner party on Sunday evening? 5. Is the world as we know it going to end?
Why should we be worried about global warming? If the climate gets warmer world wide. The ice at the poles will melt raising the ocean levels PLUS the water will expand because it's a bit warmer and lots of low lying areas will flood. A drier climate may cause more arid areas reducing arable land. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 0:45:49 GMT
Hey, you know how a couple of hurricanes just killed loads of people and did hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage?
That's why.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 17, 2017 23:33:14 GMT
Hey, you know how a couple of hurricanes just killed loads of people and did hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage? That's why. Then why not identify the real perpetrator, instead of spreading fairy tales about "global warming?" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:09:14 GMT
Hey, you know how a couple of hurricanes just killed loads of people and did hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage? That's why. Then why not identify the real perpetrator, instead of spreading fairy tales about "global warming?" We did identify the real perpetrator, dear. It's just not something you want to believe, so you refuse to. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 18, 2017 1:13:31 GMT
Then why not identify the real perpetrator, instead of spreading fairy tales about "global warming?" We did identify the real perpetrator, dear. It's just not something you want to believe, so you refuse to. It's a fairy tale, for fairies. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:15:16 GMT
We did identify the real perpetrator, dear. It's just not something you want to believe, so you refuse to. It's a fairy tale, for fairies. There we go, you got to the faggot part! The distraction from your inability to prove anything you believe is now half complete. So you just need to tell me to stop worrying about it and enjoy my life. At that point, everyone is sure to stop noticing your failure. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 18, 2017 1:19:57 GMT
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