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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:22:52 GMT
Well now you've said it, it must be true! Good luck paying for all that damage. And the next one, and the next one, and the next one... |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 18, 2017 1:28:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:30:30 GMT
Maybe you could sell copies of that and help cover the cost of the damage?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:34:37 GMT
Global cooling was hyped up in the 1970s But not to the extent as the global warming deal.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 1:44:38 GMT
Global cooling was hyped up in the 1970s But not to the extent as the global warming deal. Actually that's something of a myth. Yes, the media seized on that idea in a couple of big articles. But in terms of the science, only 7 peer reviewed papers produced during the 70s predicted global cooling - 42 predicted warming. And most of the predictions for cooling were based on the idea that there would be an initial cooling period followed by warming. The cooling was based on the idea that atmospheric aerosol concentration would quadruple in the future - the concentration had been accelerating quite rapidly until then, so it wasn't an unreasonable extrapolation. But what actually happened was that the US passed the Clean Air Act, and many other countries passed similar laws to limit atmospheric aerosol concentrations. So they didn't quadruple - they started declining and are still declining today. So the idea of that fact as "those silly scientists, one day they say one thing and the next day they say the opposite" simply isn't the case. But it does make for a good line for those selling a political agenda. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Sept 18, 2017 19:59:18 GMT
Hey, you know how a couple of hurricanes just killed loads of people and did hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage? That's why. Then why not identify the real perpetrator, instead of spreading fairy tales about "global warming?" The real perpetrator HAS been identified. Its US. The corporations that create all the artificial waste that doesn't biodegrade and we people who continue to buy it.
When a thing doesn't biodegrade, the way that natural things do, then it takes up space in the world. For example: A regular piece of plastic can take up to 1000 years to degrade, if ever. Imagine an entire landfill filled with only plastic. That would mean that particular landfill would be there for one thousand years, doing nothing that supports animal or plant life. Just taking space. Now imagine 1000 of those landfills. Now imagine an entire countryside covered in those landfills. It can happen. Its just a matter of time.
Now imagine this: Instead of a piece of plastic, its an artificial gas. That gas goes up into the sky and doesn't degrade. It just kinda hangs out. Oxygen on the other hand DOES degrade so it needs to be replenished. Fortunately we have trees and plants for that. But lets say you don't stop putting out those artificial gases, but you keeping cutting down trees. Then you're basically replacing degradable Oxygen with NONdegradable artificial gas, which we cant breathe, and which makes the atmosphere warmer. Follow?
Scientists all over the world have seen this trend, increasing since the industrial revolution. Its happening. The reason you don't see it is because it happening slowly. As I said to another poster here... you'd have to be stupid on a galactic scale to think all those un-related scientists all over the world are in on a conspiracy just to lie to the American alt-right.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 18, 2017 20:35:21 GMT
Well now you've said it, it must be true! Good luck paying for all that damage. And the next one, and the next one, and the next one... Remember: First it was "Climate change is a myth"... Then, when asked what it was, "... CO2 is low. That's bad." Then, later, it was " Anthropomorphic climate change...." Then, finally, "Anthropogenic climate change is a myth..." It's been quite the struggle. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 22:53:20 GMT
Yes Prime Minister summed up the attitude :
Bernard Woolley : "What if the Prime Minister insists we help them?"
Sir Humphrey Appleby : "Then we follow the four-stage strategy.
Bernard Woolley : "What's that?"
Sir Richard Wharton : "Standard Foreign Office response in a time of crisis."
Sir Richard Wharton : "In stage one we say nothing is going to happen."
Sir Humphrey Appleby : "Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it."
Sir Richard Wharton : "In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do."
Sir Humphrey Appleby : "Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now."
The US right are in stage 1/2 now. They're not going to be permitted to believe in global warming until they can be told that it's real, but that it's too late to do anything about it.
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 18, 2017 23:23:33 GMT
Of the two, global warming and global cooling, only global cooling is inevitable. It's just a matter of time. It will happen eventually even if there is a brief interlude of warming. The ability of fossil fuels to create a carbon dioxide thermal blanket around the Earth is limited by the quantities of those fuels already in existence, which is not necessarily sufficient for what you imagine. Then too there is the feedback loop of plant life that thrives more as carbon dioxide levels increase, thus decreasing them back to previous levels. The widespread belief in global warming is then yet another of the things people believe simply because they copy mindlessly what they hear the "most" people say. The list is stunning by the way. |
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Post by cupcakes on Sept 18, 2017 23:26:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 0:16:07 GMT
Of the two, global warming and global cooling, only global cooling is inevitable. It's just a matter of time. It will happen eventually even if there is a brief interlude of warming. Actually not. Rest assured, on a long enough scale, a warming planet WILL be the issue in the end. And how! |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 19, 2017 0:47:22 GMT
Of the two, global warming and global cooling, only global cooling is inevitable. It's just a matter of time. It will happen eventually even if there is a brief interlude of warming. Actually not. Rest assured, on a long enough scale, a warming planet WILL be the issue in the end. And how! You really need a new avatar. And you need a new personality to go with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 0:49:17 GMT
Actually not. Rest assured, on a long enough scale, a warming planet WILL be the issue in the end. And how! You really need a new avatar. No, I don't. I like Blinky. I made him myself, and he amuses me. Another one who gets annoyed when he's wrong. This also amuses me. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Sept 19, 2017 1:05:10 GMT
I like Blinky. I made him myself, and he amuses me. Try to imagine how not surprised I am. |
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Post by gadreel on Sept 19, 2017 1:30:09 GMT
Of the two, global warming and global cooling, only global cooling is inevitable. It's just a matter of time. It will happen eventually even if there is a brief interlude of warming. Actually not. Rest assured, on a long enough scale, a warming planet WILL be the issue in the end. And how! surely in the longest timescale it will be cooling with the energy death of the universe? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 1:51:50 GMT
Actually not. Rest assured, on a long enough scale, a warming planet WILL be the issue in the end. And how! surely in the longest timescale it will be cooling with the energy death of the universe? No, since there won't be an Earth to cool at that point. Probably won't be any people to worry about either one, though. Or nothing we would recognise as "people", anyway. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Sept 19, 2017 4:05:08 GMT
You really need a new avatar. No, I don't. I like Blinky. I made him myself, and he amuses me. Another one who gets annoyed when he's wrong. This also amuses me. I like Blinky and your personality, graham! |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 19, 2017 7:05:54 GMT
Well now you've said it, it must be true!Good luck paying for all that damage. And the next one, and the next one, and the next one... Remember: First it was "Climate change is a myth"... Then, when asked what it was, "... CO2 is low. That's bad." Then, later, it was " Anthropomorphic climate change...."Then, finally, "Anthropogenic climate change is a myth..." It's been quite the struggle. Who said climate change was a myth? Certainly not me. Are you telling barefaced lies again, Cine? Or is your memory getting worse?  |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Sept 19, 2017 8:35:47 GMT
Remember: First it was "Climate change is a myth"... Then, when asked what it was, "... CO2 is low. That's bad." Then, later, it was " Anthropomorphic climate change...."Then, finally, "Anthropogenic climate change is a myth..." It's been quite the struggle. Who said climate change was a myth? Your entire opening take on the concept was "it's a hoax", mate, even when you had the concept backward. No skin off my nose if you want to pretend it wasn't the case. It's not as if you're alone in shifting from "it's not happening" to "it's not us causing it." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 10:57:28 GMT
No, I don't. I like Blinky. I made him myself, and he amuses me. Another one who gets annoyed when he's wrong. This also amuses me. I like Blinky and your personality, graham! Awww, thanks!  |
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