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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 1:12:40 GMT
What did you think about the scene where Rey fires a gun for the first time and has a perfect aim, but the Stormtroopers can’t hit her? I thought it was unintentionally hillarious To be honest, I didn’t notice that in particular! She was so perfect that there were a bunch of those scenes, though. The mind-control/Jedi mind trick scene was one that made me crack up–which is too bad, as it seems like she’s not going to be able to do it, which is a good gag. But she has to be perfect. It’s incredibly annoying. All valid observations. The Rae character, the way she was presented, seemed very odd to me as well. A cardboard figure works for me as well. Who would you say took on the role as narrator for her background in this story? Thanks, but I’m not sure exactly what you mean by a narrator… The problem is, too, I like Daisy Ridley–I even like the way she plays the character, but Rey is just not a particularly well-written character. By the way, coldenhaulfield, @forceghostackbar, Hauntedknight87, President Ackbar™, No Morpho, Only Bánh mì, and everyone, I think I’m going to take a look at The Last Jedi tonight (it is still on Netflix!).
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Nov 26, 2018 1:25:33 GMT
What did you think about the scene where Rey fires a gun for the first time and has a perfect aim, but the Stormtroopers can’t hit her? I thought it was unintentionally hillarious To be honest, I didn’t notice that in particular! She was so perfect that there were a bunch of those scenes, though. The mind-control/Jedi mind trick scene was one that made me crack up–which is too bad, as it seems like she’s not going to be able to do it, which is a good gag. But she has to be perfect. It’s incredibly annoying. All valid observations. The Rae character, the way she was presented, seemed very odd to me as well. A cardboard figure works for me as well. Who would you say took on the role as narrator for her background in this story? Thanks, but I’m not sure exactly what you mean by a narrator… The problem is, too, I like Daisy Ridley–I even like the way she plays the character, but Rey is just not a particularly well-written character. By the way, coldenhaulfield, @forceghostackbar, Hauntedknight87, President Ackbar™, No Morpho, Only Bánh mì, and everyone, I think I’m going to take a look at The Last Jedi tonight (it is still on Netflix!). Do it! I'd love to hear your continued thoughts.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 1:44:54 GMT
OK, this one’s gonna be interesting, ain’t it? And, Colden, you’re talking to me! Have I been absolved of my sins?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 1:46:51 GMT
All valid observations. The Rae character, the way she was presented, seemed very odd to me as well. A cardboard figure works for me as well. Who would you say took on the role as narrator for her background in this story? Thanks, but I’m not sure exactly what you mean by a narrator… The problem is, too, I like Daisy Ridley–I even like the way she plays the character, but Rey is just not a particularly well-written character. I've been curious about how this character was presented to us since the premier, and I came to this conclusion the second time I saw this film. Her background was intentionally left void, with scenes of her life at the time of TFA and just a brief cryptic scene given to fill in her a around 6 years old. Everything else has been left to our own imagination to narrate, intentionally. We were never told she was a scavenger for Plutt, exclusively toiling for survival for all those years. We just inferred it. We are the narrator for this unwritten character, we are unreliable, we are getting schnookered. That's JMHO, and I could be wrong, but it's the only reason I could see someone like Larry Kasdan not cover that base. There were scenes of life on Jakku, including characters completely cut from the story, enough to have toys made for them. These weren't give to us in the deleted scenes. Why not? I believe that those scenes were moved to episode 9, and we will be left looking at Rey like we were looking at Malcolm Crowe at the end of The Sixth Sense. If not, then indeed she is a very poorly created character.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 1:50:05 GMT
The First Order reigns–again! Just like the Empire–again! Again, again.
So our redheaded pal… Anyone here know if he actually was constipated while making this? Look at him!
I still like Dameron. But what’s with the dumb jokes? “I believe he’s–tooling with you, sir.”
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 1:56:06 GMT
I’ve been curious about how this character was presented to us since the premier, and I came to this conclusion the second time I saw this film. Her background was intentionally left void, with scenes of her life at the time of TFA and just a brief cryptic scene given to fill in her a around 6 years old. Everything else has been left to our own imagination to narrate, intentionally. We were never told she was a scavenger for Plutt, exclusively toiling for survival for all those years. We just inferred it. We are the narrator for this unwritten character, we are unreliable, we are getting schnookered. That’s JMHO, and I could be wrong, but it’s the only reason I could see someone like Larry Kasdan not cover that base. There were scenes of life on Jakku, including characters completely cut from the story, enough to have toys made for them. These weren’t give to us in the deleted scenes. Why not? I believe that those scenes were moved to episode 9, and we will be left looking at Rey like we were looking at Malcolm Crowe at the end of The Sixth Sense. If not, then indeed she is a very poorly created character. Ah, got it, I understand. Thanks! As I wrote, I’m not a huge fan, especially in these kinds of movies, of getting all the details about a character–I like details left vague, leaving our imaginations to fill in the gaps. It adds to the mythopoeic quality. But we have to get a grasp on a character, to be able to see ourselves in that character–that’s what I meant by saying a character has to be sketched, even if sketched lightly. (Again, I’m thinking of how admirably the exposition is done in Raiders of the Lost Ark.) A picture (and a character) ultimately stands or falls by its own merits, and failing to sketch Rey, our lead, out in The Force Awakens would for me remain a major flaw of that picture even if we get a backstory in Episode 9. JMHO as well, of course.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:03:37 GMT
Seriously: is this supposed to be a comedy?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:05:21 GMT
I’ve been curious about how this character was presented to us since the premier, and I came to this conclusion the second time I saw this film. Her background was intentionally left void, with scenes of her life at the time of TFA and just a brief cryptic scene given to fill in her a around 6 years old. Everything else has been left to our own imagination to narrate, intentionally. We were never told she was a scavenger for Plutt, exclusively toiling for survival for all those years. We just inferred it. We are the narrator for this unwritten character, we are unreliable, we are getting schnookered. That’s JMHO, and I could be wrong, but it’s the only reason I could see someone like Larry Kasdan not cover that base. There were scenes of life on Jakku, including characters completely cut from the story, enough to have toys made for them. These weren’t give to us in the deleted scenes. Why not? I believe that those scenes were moved to episode 9, and we will be left looking at Rey like we were looking at Malcolm Crowe at the end of The Sixth Sense. If not, then indeed she is a very poorly created character. Ah, got it, I understand. Thanks. As I wrote, I’m not a huge fan, especially in these kinds of movies, of getting all the details about a character–I like details left vague, leaving our imaginations to fill in the gaps. It adds to the mythopoeic quality. But we have to get a grasp on a character, to see ourselves in that character–that’s what I meant by saying a character has to be sketched, even if sketched lightly. (Again, I’m thinking of how admirable the exposition is done in Raiders of the Lost Ark.) A picture (and a character) ultimately stands or falls by its own merits, and failing to sketch Rey, our lead, out in The Force Awakens would for me remain a major flaw of that picture even if we get a backstory in Episode 9. JMHO as well. I will have to see it, if it indeed happens, in episode 9, to determine if it's a flaw or a gem. It would be a first if it is pulled off. A character redefining twist usually is in one film. "I am your Father", was a twist across two films. A twist that redefines a character over three films has never happened, but the story teller doesn't often have a three film guarantee to begin with.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:06:30 GMT
Wait a sec, Rey is just giving the lightsaber to Luke now, but “the First Order reigns”? Have they begun their reign within thirty seconds of the last movie? Because, even if they seemed unduly powerful in the last one, nothing (as far as I could tell) seemed to indicate they had complete control over the galaxy. Huh?
And Luke has just thrown away the lightsaber. Who the hell wrote this, Mel Brooks?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:07:00 GMT
The First Order reigns– again! Just like the Empire–again! Again, again. So our redheaded pal… Anyone here if he actually was constipated while making this? Look at him! I still like Dameron. But what’s with the dumb jokes? “I believe he’s– tooling with you, sir.” That stupid prank call by Poe. I knew I'd hate this movie the second that happened... Hux: "Hello?" Poe: "Is your Bacta Tank running?" Hux: "Hang on. I will check... Yes. It is running" Poe: "Well, you betta go catch it! KA-POW!!!1"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:08:16 GMT
Wait a sec, Rey is just giving the lightsaber to Luke now, but “the First Order reigns”? Have they begun their reign within thirty seconds of the last movie? Because, even if they seemed unduly powerful in the last one, nothing (as far as I could tell) seemed to indicate they had complete control over the galaxy. Huh? And Luke has just thrown away the lightsaber. Who the hell wrote this, Mel Brooks? Lol just you wait!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:09:26 GMT
Has Luke milked the Moof yet?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:13:43 GMT
The First Order reigns– again! Just like the Empire–again! Again, again. So our redheaded pal… Anyone here if he actually was constipated while making this? Look at him! I still like Dameron. But what’s with the dumb jokes? “I believe he’s– tooling with you, sir.” That stupid prank call by Poe. I knew I’d hate this movie the second that happened… Hux: “Hello?” Poe: “Is your Bacta Tank running?” Hux: “Hang on. I will check… Yes. It is running” Poe: “Well, you betta go catch it! KA-POW!!!1" It’s absolutely moronic. As were the two horrible moments so far when the Emperor made the General slide across the floor and when Luke threw away the lightsaber. We’re at the Emperor’s–er, the Leader’s–throne room now, and it looks pretty cool. I’ll say that for this movie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:14:14 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:16:25 GMT
Has Luke milked the Moof yet? He’s milking this dinosaur-looking thing right now–and drinking it! He just said, “What do you expect, I’m going to take a laser sword and face down the First Order?” And I was thinking–uh, yeah! Because that’s what he did to the Empire! What the… I’m changing my mind. If Brooks had written it, it would have actually been funny.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:17:43 GMT
“Religion”?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:19:29 GMT
Ah, got it, I understand. Thanks. As I wrote, I’m not a huge fan, especially in these kinds of movies, of getting all the details about a character–I like details left vague, leaving our imaginations to fill in the gaps. It adds to the mythopoeic quality. But we have to get a grasp on a character, to see ourselves in that character–that’s what I meant by saying a character has to be sketched, even if sketched lightly. (Again, I’m thinking of how admirable the exposition is done in Raiders of the Lost Ark.) A picture (and a character) ultimately stands or falls by its own merits, and failing to sketch Rey, our lead, out in The Force Awakens would for me remain a major flaw of that picture even if we get a backstory in Episode 9. JMHO as well. I will have to see it, if it indeed happens, in episode 9, to determine if it’s a flaw or a gem. It would be a first if it is pulled off. A character redefining twist usually is in one film. “I am your Father”, was a twist across two films. A twist that redefines a character over three films has never happened, but the story teller doesn’t often have a three film guarantee to begin with. What exactly do you think the twist is going to be? So far she’s the least offensive thing about this so-far-dreadful movie. “I came to this island to die.” Who on earth wrote this stuff? Did this person ever see a movie in this series? Even just the last one?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 2:21:48 GMT
What’s the point of Leia’s giving him the concerned-mother speech if she then jokingly grants permission?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:22:11 GMT
Has Admiral Ackbar showed up yet?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 2:24:12 GMT
What did you think of Finn's introduction where he smashes his face on the glass tank?
I was laughing my ass off at that. It was just so damn stupid. They couldn't let that character have more than two seconds of dignity.
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