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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:43:25 GMT
I honestly never expected our resident baddie to kill his boss. That is surprising.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:45:12 GMT
Damn. He’s shouty again, like Pacino at his worst.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:46:35 GMT
“You have no place in this story. You come from nothing” is both way too on-the-nose and belied by the fact that we know she can do all these amazing things that no one else can, especially without being trained.
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Post by kuatorises on Nov 26, 2018 3:48:28 GMT
This one’s for coldenhaulfield , @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , Tristan's Journal , and BATouttaheck . So here I am, probably the last person in the universe who hasn’t seen Star Wars, and after waiting for an eternity, I get to watch the first movie. I suppose this is the best place for me to record my thoughts? Very first impressions: *As I was watching that famous opening title-crawl, my first thought is—“did I start with the right movie?” It seemed to start mid-story, as if the audience already knew Leia and Darth Vader. My second thought? “Dear God, all John Williams scores sound the same.” *I found the opening surprisingly dull, and the dialogue sequence between Leia and DV definitely needed another take. The robots are more annoying than entertaining. *Happy I stuck with it, though, as everything since we met Mark Hamill has been fun. Alec Guinness is as great as ever. Will let you know more thoughts as I go along. You can fuck off with that shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 3:52:41 GMT
“You have no place in this story. You come from nothing” is both way too on-the-nose and belied by the fact that we know she can do all these amazing things that no one else can, especially without being trained. Hmmmmm......
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:55:10 GMT
So: we get no characterization for Finn, Poe, Rose, Snoke, or the female First Order general that Finn killed. Wow.
Poe in particular is ill-served by both of these stories, as the writers can’t think of anything for him to do. Admittedly, they can’t think of anything for Luke, R2, Chewie, or C3PO to do either.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 3:55:51 GMT
This one’s for coldenhaulfield , @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , Tristan's Journal , and BATouttaheck . So here I am, probably the last person in the universe who hasn’t seen Star Wars, and after waiting for an eternity, I get to watch the first movie. I suppose this is the best place for me to record my thoughts? Very first impressions: *As I was watching that famous opening title-crawl, my first thought is—“did I start with the right movie?” It seemed to start mid-story, as if the audience already knew Leia and Darth Vader. My second thought? “Dear God, all John Williams scores sound the same.” *I found the opening surprisingly dull, and the dialogue sequence between Leia and DV definitely needed another take. The robots are more annoying than entertaining. *Happy I stuck with it, though, as everything since we met Mark Hamill has been fun. Alec Guinness is as great as ever. Will let you know more thoughts as I go along. You can fuck off with that shit. Pardon?
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 4:09:01 GMT
I love that Luke is standing up alone against Darth Horseface’s forces. That’s the best part of the movie so far–someone making this understands what heroism is. (And, in other news, Horseface is back as his whiny, childish self.)
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 4:14:28 GMT
I love that Luke is standing up alone against Darth Horseface
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 4:15:27 GMT
I love that Luke is standing up alone against Darth HorsefaceTHAT'S THE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!%5
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 4:16:37 GMT
THAT'S THE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!%5 I KNEW IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 4:19:56 GMT
What do you mean, “he’s gone”? As in dead? Because it looked like he just–I dunno what the word is, made another double fade away.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 4:28:29 GMT
What do you mean, “he’s gone”? As in dead? Because it looked like he just–I dunno what the word is, made another double fade away.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Nov 26, 2018 4:29:15 GMT
I am glad I missed the Disney SW --reading the critiques are more entertaining.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 4:31:03 GMT
I am glad I missed the Disney SW --reading the critiques are more entertaining. The critiques ( well, slazmark's at least ) are also better written.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 26, 2018 4:40:57 GMT
Welp. I didn’t like this one. It’s definitely the worst one I’ve seen so far. Its first act is absolutely horrid–and its second act, while better, is somehow even more boring. It’s very long, yet somehow incredibly dull for extended stretches, with minimal character or plot. What a mess of a movie.
Really, I’m at a loss on what I should say. This is the only Star Wars movie I’ve seen since I’ve started this year of Star Wars that I couldn’t wait to end. I seriously wish at least an hour had been cut off of this movie. What’s good? Daisy Ridley. Her character’s not all that well-written, still, but she invests the picture with a kind of quiet dignity; so does the late Carrie Fisher.
The leads do a good job acting-wise, though their characters are terrible. In particular, Rose and Finn’s story feels like padding, and the writer could not think of what to do with Poe. Luke’s characterization and Hamill’s performance are dreadful. I seriously wonder if anyone involved in this production has seen a Star Wars movie before. I only saw ’em for the first time this year and can tell you that the writers are seriously messing up the characters. And a writer’s first rule is to be faithful to his characters.
A writer’s second rule is to believe in his story; if he feels it has stakes, even if it’s ridiculous or comic, then the reader/viewer/listener has a better chance of buying it. How can we be expected to suspend our disbelief for a story if the storyteller can’t?
But Rian Johnson, who wrote and directed, seems to believe not one jot in the story he’s telling. He treats it as a big joke–the Thor: Ragnarok of Star Wars. (There’s this wonderful interview with Peter Cushing where he says that he and Alec Guinness had no idea what they were saying in Star Wars–yet both men invested their dialogue with so much nuance and meaning. That’s acting, and that’s treating something seriously even when you think it ridiculous.) Roger Ebert pointed out how the monster’s jailer in Return of the Jedi got a small scene to mourn him. The filmmakers here killed off Ackbar (and possibly Luke?) here, and no one cares, just as no one cared when Han died.
For the most part everything is shot dully, without the color or vibrancy even of The Force Awakens. The few visual niceties–Supreme Leader Snoke’s Throne Room, for example, in bright red–only go to show how grey the rest of the picture is.
There are a few good things. I liked that sequence with hundreds of Reys. I liked Daisy Ridley. I liked how Adam Driver (thanks, @homergreg !) gave a better performance–until the end, when he went shouty and petulant again. I was genuinely surprised by the Snoke twist, though that means we’re left with Darth Horseface as our main villain. But there is so much that went so wrong here; I haven’t even talked about the inexplicable cameo from a CGI Yoda! By far the worst Star Wars movie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 4:44:08 GMT
This one’s for coldenhaulfield , @forceghostackbar , President Ackbar™ , Tristan's Journal , and BATouttaheck . So here I am, probably the last person in the universe who hasn’t seen Star Wars, and after waiting for an eternity, I get to watch the first movie. I suppose this is the best place for me to record my thoughts? Very first impressions: *As I was watching that famous opening title-crawl, my first thought is—“did I start with the right movie?” It seemed to start mid-story, as if the audience already knew Leia and Darth Vader. My second thought? “Dear God, all John Williams scores sound the same.” *I found the opening surprisingly dull, and the dialogue sequence between Leia and DV definitely needed another take. The robots are more annoying than entertaining. *Happy I stuck with it, though, as everything since we met Mark Hamill has been fun. Alec Guinness is as great as ever. Will let you know more thoughts as I go along. You can fuck off with that shit. When did you become such a troll? You were a quality poster on the old IMDb. Now you're kind of an a hole. What gives?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 4:45:05 GMT
You can fuck off with that shit. When did you become such a troll? You were a quality poster on the old IMDb. Now you're kind of an a hole. What gives? He can fuck off with that shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 4:45:33 GMT
I honestly never expected our resident baddie to kill his boss. That is surprising. It's still just a rehash of the OT though. It's Vader killing the Emperor but with none of the build up or emotional weight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 4:46:48 GMT
I love that Luke is standing up alone against Darth HorsefaceTHATS THE HORSE!!!!!!!!!98765431
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