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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 11, 2018 19:19:15 GMT
homergreg, I finally saw the video. There are some parts where it almost comes off as an advertisement for The Phantom Menace, but when Moyers and Lucas are talking about mythology… It’s fantastic. It’s exactly what you and I were mentioning in the ghost stories thread. Thank you so much for it. No problem, yes with the timing and hype of TPM at the time, its absolutely part commercial, but when you get down to the meat of it, you get a great deal of what Lucas really put into that mythos. Revisit the Indiana Jones series after watching that.Interesting; do you mean that Indy follows the Star Wars trilogy pattern, or what? Because the original three Indys and the original three Star Wars match up nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 19:39:37 GMT
No problem, yes with the timing and hype of TPM at the time, its absolutely part commercial, but when you get down to the meat of it, you get a great deal of what Lucas really put into that mythos. Revisit the Indiana Jones series after watching that.Interesting; do you mean that Indy follows the Star Wars trilogy pattern, or what? Because the original three Indys and the original three Star Wars match up nicely. I am more thinking about his talking about his assertions on how low we are on the scale of our understanding of the universe, and all religions ultimately looking for the same thing. Indy seeks Arc of Covenant - Finds it and it is indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Sankara Stones, sivalinga - Finds them and they are indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Holy Grail - Finds it and it is indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Mayan Crystal Skulls - Finds them and they are indeed supernatural (even if not as well received by the audience). Nothing that he ends up finding is just an inert artifact, he finds evidence of greater power with each maguffin he attains. Now look at what Lucas asserts in his interview, lol the good part, and it makes me ponder, what is Indy really looking for? I don't think he is searching for just artifacts.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 11, 2018 19:48:17 GMT
Interesting; do you mean that Indy follows the Star Wars trilogy pattern, or what? Because the original three Indys and the original three Star Wars match up nicely. I am more thinking about his talking about his assertions on how low we are on the scale of our understanding of the universe, and all religions ultimately looking for the same thing. Indy seeks Arc of Covenant - Finds it and it is indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Sankara Stones, sivalinga - Finds them and they are indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Holy Grail - Finds it and it is indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Mayan Crystal Skulls - Finds them and they are indeed supernatural (even if not as well received by the audience). Nothing that he ends up finding is just an inert artifact, he finds evidence of greater power with each maguffin he attains. Now look at what Lucas asserts in his interview, lol the good part, and it makes me ponder, what is Indy really looking for? I don’t think he is searching for just artifacts. Ah, OK. An excellent point. And Indy is some sort of non-believer, probably because of his father: “I don’t believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus-pocus. I’m going after a find of incredible historical significance. You’re talking about the boogie-man.” The attitude even sticks with him after not only ToD, which (I suppose) he could have doubted, thinking it was drugs or something, but also after Raiders, the supernaturalism of which he had to believe. So Indy’s a searcher after something beyond existence, if he doesn’t realize that, and finding it in many different mythologies. Fascinating. Did Campbell ever comment on Indiana Jones? I wonder what he would have thought of that series. (I know he used Star Wars as an example for one of the books.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 20:05:22 GMT
I am more thinking about his talking about his assertions on how low we are on the scale of our understanding of the universe, and all religions ultimately looking for the same thing. Indy seeks Arc of Covenant - Finds it and it is indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Sankara Stones, sivalinga - Finds them and they are indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Holy Grail - Finds it and it is indeed supernatural. Indy seeks Mayan Crystal Skulls - Finds them and they are indeed supernatural (even if not as well received by the audience). Nothing that he ends up finding is just an inert artifact, he finds evidence of greater power with each maguffin he attains. Now look at what Lucas asserts in his interview, lol the good part, and it makes me ponder, what is Indy really looking for? I don’t think he is searching for just artifacts. Ah, OK. An excellent point. And Indy is some sort of non-believer, probably because of his father: “I don’t believe in magic, a lot of superstitious hocus-pocus. I’m going after a find of incredible historical significance. You’re talking about the boogie-man.” The attitude even sticks with him after not only ToD, which (I suppose) he could have doubted, thinking it was drugs or something, but also after Raiders, the supernaturalism of which he had to believe. So Indy’s a searcher after something beyond existence, if he doesn’t realize that, and finding it in many different mythologies. Fascinating. Did Campbell ever comment on Indiana Jones? I wonder what he would have thought of that series. (I know he used Star Wars as an example for one of the books.) I don't know if Campbell spoke on Indiana or not, but his heroes journey has been noted. Interesting that you bring up his disbelief. Now look at Han Solo's change...
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 2:49:01 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 15, 2018 2:51:53 GMT
I intended it, but I don’t think I’m able to right now… Sorry, m’friend. Will let you know when I do or if I can finish up the work I’m doing in just a few minutes…
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 2:57:25 GMT
No worries! Working? Hope you get to do something fun tonight.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 15, 2018 4:04:15 GMT
No Morpho, Only Bánh mì, @forceghostackbar, President Ackbar™, Hauntedknight87, @homergreg, Waxer-n-boil, Tristan's Journal, ryboto, coldenhaulfield, et al., I finished a good chunk of what I had to do and can probably finish it up tomorrow–so I’m going to watch at least some of Solo. Gang chiming in?
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 4:05:19 GMT
Woohoo! When’s showtime?
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 15, 2018 4:08:08 GMT
Right now. Just started it!
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 4:08:35 GMT
Right now. Just started it! K! I’m starting mine.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 15, 2018 4:10:43 GMT
Huh, no big scroll again? Are they phasing that out? (It was, admittedly, somewhat pointless when The Last Jedi started immediately after The Force Awakens.)
Wait, this guy’s supposed to be Han? He doesn’t look or sound a thing like Harrison Ford.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 15, 2018 4:11:40 GMT
Right now. Just started it! K! I’m starting mine. OK, I can wait for you. I may have to pause mine a bit early, though, to get to sleep.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 4:11:44 GMT
The scroll is for the episodes. The “Star Wars Story” entries don’t have it.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 4:12:47 GMT
It’s going. Qi’ra and Han are trying to evade pursuers.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 15, 2018 4:13:04 GMT
The scroll is for the episodes. The “Star Wars Story” entries don’t have it. This.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 4:14:43 GMT
I actually think Proxima is pretty cool. Def better than Unkar Plutt.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 15, 2018 4:15:39 GMT
I need to watch Solo again.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 15, 2018 4:16:15 GMT
I actually think Proxima is pretty cool. Def better than Unkar Plutt. I quite liked the opening race sequence and the short bit with her.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Dec 15, 2018 4:17:51 GMT
It certainly has its moments. Apart from the obvious train sequence, there are some other standouts.
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