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Post by NJtoTX on May 31, 2018 15:13:10 GMT
• Balls in play or runners advancing: 5 minutes, 47 seconds • Other action (such as pitches, foul balls and pickoffs): 12 minutes, 11 seconds Total: 18 minutes Time between batters: 33 minutes, 39 seconds. This included "knocking the weighted donut off the bat, announcing the batter, the walk-up song, cleaning the cleats" Time between innings: 42 minutes, 41 seconds) Time between pitches: 1 hour, 14 minutes, 49 seconds www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/apr/06/snapple/are-there-only-18-minutes-action-baseball-game/
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 31, 2018 15:16:05 GMT
We need more Mark Burhrles and less Nomars.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 15:24:22 GMT
I've had dumps the morning after particularly hot phals that have lasted longer.
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 31, 2018 15:46:17 GMT
What is it for an NFL game, 12 minutes?
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Post by nausea on May 31, 2018 15:53:49 GMT
There is money to be made and their situation is horrible.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 31, 2018 17:49:34 GMT
What is it for an NFL game, 12 minutes? Not sure why it feels so different for me - - I don't notice it at all in football but I can't stop noticing it for baseball. And back when I was a kid, I pretty much liked both equally. That being said, the non-stop "action" of the NBA usually bores me to tears too. Somehow, for me, football is the right middle ground.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 31, 2018 18:10:43 GMT
What is it for an NFL game, 12 minutes? Not sure why it feels so different for me - - I don't notice it at all in football but I can't stop noticing it for baseball. And back when I was a kid, I pretty much liked both equally. That being said, the non-stop "action" of the NBA usually bores me to tears too. Somehow, for me, football is the right middle ground. Yeah, football somehow seems more fluid even though when you break it down, there's a ton of downtime within the game. I just feel like there's more going on, more player movement to hold your attention even between plays. Unless I was pitching, baseball was my least favorite sport to play when I was a kid. Too much standing around, waiting to react.
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 31, 2018 18:32:47 GMT
What is it for an NFL game, 12 minutes? Not sure why it feels so different for me - - I don't notice it at all in football but I can't stop noticing it for baseball. And back when I was a kid, I pretty much liked both equally. That being said, the non-stop "action" of the NBA usually bores me to tears too. Somehow, for me, football is the right middle ground. It's all simply a matter of what we do and don't enjoy. Personally for me, I can watch any baseball game between any two teams pretty much any time, but I'd rather chug a bottle of drano than watch 5 minutes of any NFL or NBA game. They both just bore me ceaselessly.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 31, 2018 18:40:39 GMT
What is it for an NFL game, 12 minutes? Not sure why it feels so different for me - - I don't notice it at all in football but I can't stop noticing it for baseball. And back when I was a kid, I pretty much liked both equally. That being said, the non-stop "action" of the NBA usually bores me to tears too. Somehow, for me, football is the right middle ground. You notice how baseball, football, and hockey gets more exciting as you approach the game’s ending ( or half / period ending) but basketball’s endgame is nothing but fouls, free throws and timeouts? This is why I’ll never be a die hard basketball fan - the game is unwatchable at its most crucial moments. In terms of watchable action I’ll take the other three leagues every time.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 31, 2018 19:04:11 GMT
Not sure why it feels so different for me - - I don't notice it at all in football but I can't stop noticing it for baseball. And back when I was a kid, I pretty much liked both equally. That being said, the non-stop "action" of the NBA usually bores me to tears too. Somehow, for me, football is the right middle ground. Yeah, football somehow seems more fluid even though when you break it down, there's a ton of downtime within the game. I just feel like there's more going on, more player movement to hold your attention even between plays. Unless I was pitching, baseball was my least favorite sport to play when I was a kid. Too much standing around, waiting to react. It seems more fluid because every play has to be shown again. 99 yard punt return or a run up the middle for no gain, all gets to be seen again by us at home.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 31, 2018 19:18:21 GMT
Not sure why it feels so different for me - - I don't notice it at all in football but I can't stop noticing it for baseball. And back when I was a kid, I pretty much liked both equally. That being said, the non-stop "action" of the NBA usually bores me to tears too. Somehow, for me, football is the right middle ground. It's all simply a matter of what we do and don't enjoy. Personally for me, I can watch any baseball game between any two teams pretty much any time, but I'd rather chug a bottle of drano than watch 5 minutes of any NFL or NBA game. They both just bore me ceaselessly. Certainly that is a huge part of it. But I loved baseball up to the strike, so I did enjoy it at one time. Part of it for me comes down to the number of games. I like NFL, college football, and college basketball more than MLB, NHL, and NBA because it feels like the regular season games mean something. Whoever wins the NBA and NHL titles will have won as many games in the playoffs as NFL teams play in the regular season. Fifteen pitch at-bats and seven pitcher games certainly ruined my enjoyment of baseball for me. I clicked on Padres-Marlins the other night and Tyson Ross already had 40+ pitches at the end of the second inning. That's rough for me. I've gotten to the point where I'd rather read and discuss baseball than actually watch it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 31, 2018 19:32:41 GMT
Yeah, football somehow seems more fluid even though when you break it down, there's a ton of downtime within the game. I just feel like there's more going on, more player movement to hold your attention even between plays. Unless I was pitching, baseball was my least favorite sport to play when I was a kid. Too much standing around, waiting to react. It seems more fluid because every play has to be shown again. 99 yard punt return or a run up the middle for no gain, all gets to be seen again by us at home. There's something to be said about a sport's transition to tv. I enjoy games at Fenway much more than watching them on tv, because I can focus on different aspects of the game. A lot of the nuance to a baseball game is lost on television. You can watch any given play during a football game and see players shifting and showing the strategy at work. A lot of the strategy of baseball just doesn't show up on the screen; or rather it isn't concentrated around the ball the way it is in other sports. Maybe that's the difference-- something as simple as the players being so spread out on the field. It gives it a feel that guys are standing around instead of dialed in on every pitch (which you know they are from playing the game yourself).
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Post by NJtoTX on May 31, 2018 19:43:03 GMT
It seems more fluid because every play has to be shown again. 99 yard punt return or a run up the middle for no gain, all gets to be seen again by us at home. There's something to be said about a sport's transition to tv. I enjoy games at Fenway much more than watching them on tv, because I can focus on different aspects of the game. A lot of the nuance to a baseball game is lost on television. You can watch any given play during a football game and see players shifting and showing the strategy at work. A lot of the strategy of baseball just doesn't show up on the screen; or rather it isn't concentrated around the ball the way it is in other sports. Maybe that's the difference-- something as simple as the players being so spread out on the field. It gives it a feel that guys are standing around instead of dialed in on every pitch (which you know they are from playing the game yourself). Well, you can see the shift and somehow, that adds less excitement rather than more. Football seems like, when they huddle and break from the huddle and call out plays and adjust and put guys in motion, things are happening as if it's about to be a battle. No equivalent for baseball.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 31, 2018 19:46:51 GMT
It seems more fluid because every play has to be shown again. 99 yard punt return or a run up the middle for no gain, all gets to be seen again by us at home. There's something to be said about a sport's transition to tv. I enjoy games at Fenway much more than watching them on tv, because I can focus on different aspects of the game. A lot of the nuance to a baseball game is lost on television. You can watch any given play during a football game and see players shifting and showing the strategy at work. A lot of the strategy of baseball just doesn't show up on the screen; or rather it isn't concentrated around the ball the way it is in other sports. Maybe that's the difference-- something as simple as the players being so spread out on the field. It gives it a feel that guys are standing around instead of dialed in on every pitch (which you know they are from playing the game yourself). People say that the labor unrest on the 70's and 80's ruined baseball as the nations pasttime. But it was TV. Football, basketball, soccer, hockey, all were enhanced by TV. Baseball was diminished. Like you said, there's an epic majesty of the fielder's movement on every batted ball. Choreographed. But, if you show that on TV, you miss the closeups that don't seem necessary at the ballpark. And the NFL embraced TV while baseball hated it. The NFL did all the NFL Films highlight with John "Frozen Tundra" Facenda. MLB did the candy assess This Week in Baseball. And baseball's blackout rules are still asinine. Here in western NY, we have four teams, Indians, Mets, Yankees and Pirates blacked out. Yeah, the Mets-Padres game is blacked out, guess I'll drive six hours to see it.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on May 31, 2018 21:08:37 GMT
it's all action if you watch it thinking like a pitcher.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on May 31, 2018 21:23:47 GMT
Someone dtole my line: NFL wouldn't have much more and possibly less.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 22:05:26 GMT
Isn't football more fluid because almost every play accomplishes something, whereas most often in baseball you need a bunch of pitches to settle an AB, particularly when a few are fouled off with two strikes?
To really cut out the waste in baseball, you'd have to limit the pitches per AB to something like 5, which would change the whole complexion of the game. As with longform cricket, tradition is at loggerheads with expediency.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jun 1, 2018 3:46:48 GMT
Exactly why I felt MLB should have kept the pitch clock idea and not gotten that ridiculous limitation on mound visits.
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