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Post by spiderwort on Mar 17, 2017 17:10:46 GMT
1) The opening shot of Howard Hawk's "Scarface" (1932), a four minute scene in which the camera cranes down past a street sign, across the street, into a club, and cranes/dollies all the way into the back of the club past a dialogue scene in the front, lingers in the back where a murder occurs and then withdraws along the same path, ending up outside in almost the same position where it began. Quite an accomplishment for an early sound film.
2) The amazing scene in Murnau's "The Last Laugh" (1924), which starts with the old door man in a high-rise corridor of an old hotel, follows him into an elevator, rides all the way down with him, follows him across the hotel lobby and out into the street. Done with a camera mounted on a bicycle.
3) The scene in Hitchcock's "Frenzy" (1972), which begins with a close shot of a man strangling a woman in her apartment, then the camera pulls outside into the hall and cranes miraculously down the stairs (decades before the luna-crane and its variations) and, once downstairs, backs out through the hall and (on a hidden cut) ends up across the street (I haven't seen this film in years, so may be misremembering it slightly, but I think this description is essentially accurate).
4) The wonderful scene in Orson Welles' "The Magnificent Ambersons" (1942), in which Agnes Moorehead and Tim Holt, engaged in an intense dialogue scene, traverse the cavernous Amberson mansion from the front door, through room after room, up the long staircase and down the hall where they finally stop and continue arguing for a long time before the first cut to Tim Holt's face.
Any other suggestions, thoughts?
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Post by mattgarth on Mar 17, 2017 17:14:09 GMT
Glenn Ford's television address to his son's kidnappers in RANSOM!
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Post by Richard Kimble on Mar 17, 2017 17:43:15 GMT
Stanwyck and Fonda in The Lady Eve
A more obscure example: in The Undercover Man (1949) directed by Joseph H. Lewis, there is a long take of Glenn Ford and Nina Foch sitting against a tree. This shot is reminiscent of Ben Johnson's monologue in The Last Picture Show, although the stated inspiration for the latter was the Stewart-Widmark scene by the river in Two Rode Together.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 17:53:40 GMT
Perhaps it's a trite choice but the opening to Touch of Evil.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 17:58:39 GMT
Perhaps it's a trite choice but the opening to Touch of Evil. How can one of the most spectacular long takes in film history be trite. Never! Thanks for the mention (and the video). Hard to believe they shot all of that in downtown Venice, Ca. Oh, the scene itself isn't trite. Quite the opposite, it's a marvel. I meant that mentioning it was trite because of how famous it is. It's like mentioning the long take in Goodfellas.
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Post by teleadm on Mar 17, 2017 18:30:38 GMT
I could mention Rope by Hitchcock, made in what was said long well-rehearsed takes.
Anthony Quinn's fake breakdown in Guns of Navarone.
The emerging mysterious rider (Omar Sharif) in Lawrence of Arabia.
Most scenes in Bergman's Persona and The Silence.
Many scenes in A Fish Called Wanda, Charles Chrichton according to John Cleese, hardly moved the camera at all in most scenes, so some became long with a simple movement of camera angles. .
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Post by jeffersoncody on Mar 17, 2017 19:15:12 GMT
The opening shot of Robert Altman's THE PLAYER is extraordinary and shows us the multiple facets of the filmmaking process. Surely one of the greatest opening shots. vimeo.com/75881931
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Post by teleadm on Mar 17, 2017 19:15:44 GMT
Yes! Spiderwike (sorry if I spelled it wrong), It's like a TV theatre before TV live Theatres
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Post by fangirl1975 on Mar 17, 2017 20:15:22 GMT
The opening scene of John Carpenter's Halloween.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 17, 2017 20:48:10 GMT
In applications with a different purpose, George Cukor favored long, uninterrupted takes not to create bravura cinema, but to allow his actors continuity of concentration and performance: just plant the camera and let 'em go.
Two examples are Katherine Hepburn's jailhouse interview of Judy Holliday in Adam's Rib and Judy Garland's dressing room breakdown in A Star Is Born. In the latter, her performance of the iconic number The Man That Got Away is accomplished in one continuous take as well, with the camera moving subtly but fluidly to follow Garland as she moves among the musicians haphazardly arranged around the small stage after hours at "this little place on Sunset Blvd."
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Post by fangirl1975 on Mar 17, 2017 20:54:53 GMT
The opening scene of John Carpenter's Halloween. Sorry, but I haven't seen this one, fangirl. You should check it out.
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Post by shield on Mar 17, 2017 21:02:15 GMT
The long walk that Hugh Grant does in Notting Hill where you can follow the seasons and different peoples stories in the background. Among other things a pregnancy and in the end the same lady with a stroller.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 17, 2017 21:06:30 GMT
The most excellent war movie The Train (1964) with Burt Lancaster has a number of these.
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Post by movielover on Mar 17, 2017 21:20:04 GMT
The opening scene of Snake Eyes, directed by Brian DePalma, is a really long take with lots of stuff happening. Had to have been very difficult.
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Post by manfromplanetx on Mar 17, 2017 21:43:10 GMT
Még kér a nép Red Psalm (1972) Hungarian Directed by Miklós Jancsó. The literal translation of the title is "And the People Still Ask", a quote from a poem by Sándor Petőfi.
Many of Miklós Jancsó highly stylized films feature and are crafted with scenes shot in very long, carefully choreographed takes. The brilliant film Még kér a nép features only 26 shots. Some are ten minutes long, involving continuous, intricate camera movements, like simultaneous track-tilt-pans, heightened by the virtual movement of an agile zoom lens. The virtuoso camerawork required a larger than usual crew who worked tirelessly behind the scenes as the camera turns for no tracks are ever seen. Almost every scene in Red Psalm features music, usually performed by the on-screen characters. The songs include Hungarian folk music and songs in Russian and English, most famously "Charlie Is My Darling" . Due to this large number of songs and dances, the movie is sometimes described as a revolutionary musical... In my top 10 all time favourites 10/10
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 17, 2017 21:57:04 GMT
3) The scene in Hitchcock's "Frenzy" (1972), which begins with a close shot of a man strangling a woman in her apartment, then the camera pulls outside into the hall and cranes miraculously down the stairs (decades before the luna-crane and its variations) and, once downstairs, backs out through the hall and (on a hidden cut) ends up across the street (I haven't seen this film in years, so may be misremembering it slightly, but I think this description is essentially accurate). I offer this small correction merely to highlight Hitchcock's use of camera and pacing to both perversely toy with audiences and to provide only just enough information to elicit the desired reactions. Frenzy presents only one graphic murder (and fairly early on), preceded by the key phrase, "You're my type of woman." In the scene to which you refer, the killer (known only to the audience) has offered the hospitality of his flat to a female character and, as he again silkily intones, "I don't know if you know it, but...you're my type of woman," the door closes in our faces as the camera then discretely executes the shot you describe, leaving viewers to imagine just as graphically as the first killing exactly what's now going on in that upstairs flat as unaware inhabitants of the street below go about their daily business. It's an elegant distillation of devices Hitchcock had previously employed in Notorious, at the conclusion of which the hapless antagonist is summoned into the house for comeuppance by the cohorts he's betrayed...which takes place behind the now-closed door as the "End" title is displayed, and in Psycho, wherein onscreen violence is abated rather than increased with the brutality of its first display lingering in the minds of viewers. In this way, he maximizes both effect and economy. Also from Psycho comes an example of the perverse toying to which I referred above as, with suspense at a fever pitch, we're methodically led up the hill to the house by a character determined to uncover its secrets, only to again have the door closed in our faces as she enters. And one more small correction, if I may: it's a Louma crane. I was privileged to have personally witnessed one of its first ( the first, I was told at the time) uses in a U.S. film by Steven Spielberg on the set of 1941.
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Post by london777 on Mar 17, 2017 22:47:38 GMT
The neo-noir Too Late (2015), directed by Dennis Hauck and starring John Hawkes, is 100 odd minutes long and mainly comprises five 20 minute reels, each one long take.
OK, hardly a "classic" and it falls into the current trend of banal stories shown in jumbled chronological order to make them more mysterious.
The things which are wrong with it are down to the thin plot and low budget, and are nothing to do with the experimental format which actually works quite well, while some of the camera-work is stunning. It opens with a long take introducing most of the main characters across several city blocks which lasts 20 minutes.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 17, 2017 23:08:30 GMT
I thank you for the correction, Doghouse, though I confess that's not my memory of it. Just the same, I'll tell ya what: your memory of it speaks to the power of Hitchcock's technique and the way in which it planted images into the mind that haven't actually been seen (not unlike the many vivid recollections of viewers of the knife entering the torso during the Psycho stabbing, and even those of some of graphic blood spurts therefrom). I note in passing that Hitchcock had rather utilized the same construction in reverse in the opening moments of Rope, wherein the camera wanders from a tranquil New York street scene to the window of an upper-floor apartment, cutting abruptly to a closeup of the strangling just being concluded therein. It's one of many examples of revisitation to a theme often referenced in his films: all manner of evil deeds taking place in the midst - and without the cognizance - of passersby going about their business, and so darkly articulated by Uncle Charlie in Shadow Of A Doubt: "Do you know the world is a foul sty? Do you know if you ripped the fronts off houses, you'd find swine? The world's a hell."
A variation can be found in numerous examples of protagonists alone and in danger in the center of a blithely unaware crowd, as in The 39 Steps, Saboteur, both versions of The Man Who Knew Too Much and presented throughout North By Northwest.
I'm glad you mentioned that, as it was very much in my mind as I was considering my remarks on Frenzy and 1941, and how the smaller and more lightweight cameras in use by the '70s facilitated the employment of many such innovations.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 17, 2017 23:48:45 GMT
Just wanted to add this about Rope, a ground-breaking film in its day. For those who may not know, back in the days of shooting on film, one reel ran roughly ten minutes. So Hitchcock, in a grand experiment, decided to block his scenes in ten minute segments, to be married with hidden cuts in the editing room (though if you look carefully, you can pick most of them out). The film runs 80 minutes, so that would mean there are seven cuts in the film. Overall, I'm not a big fan of Rope, but I do think he did a superb job of accomplishing his bold goal, and it's really interesting to watch how he blocked the scenes to maintain plot and character development, as well as suspense. And what a task for the actors, who did their jobs so well!
Given the pivotal importance Hitchcock routinely placed upon cutting (which he amplified as "the assembly of bits of film" and "pure cinema") to focus attention and achieve effects, Rope would seem counterintuitive to his entire film making practice and philosophy, but it's illustrative of the challenges he'd periodically set for himself, as well as of the choices made by any director (even those of lesser talents, creativity and attention to detail). Although photographed almost as the stage play of its origin (albeit broken up into the ten-minute chunks you describe), Hitchcock does what any director does in any given take, choosing with the camera exactly what to include in, or exclude from, the shot. By wandering among the guests and events, his camera brings the viewer up onto the stage, as it were, and into the action but, unlike the live theater experience wherein the whole of a scene plays out within the proscenium, we're allowed to see and hear only what he's chosen at any given moment. By planning every shot in advance and shooting strictly according to that plan with no waste, his normal procedure allowed a finished film to be assembled in only one way; it was what he called "cutting in the camera" (and by David Selznick as "Hitchcock's goddam jigsaw cutting," frustrating that producer's desire for "coverage" in the form of standard long-, medium- and two-shots along with closeups that he could assemble and reassemble until satisfied). With Rope, it might be said that Hitchcock cut with rather than in the camera by again photographing only that to which he wished to direct audience attention, but doing so entirely with movement and framing without the benefit of cutting. A fascinating experiment for him to have undertaken.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Mar 18, 2017 1:16:47 GMT
Love your comments about Hitchcock. I do believe you're an expert. You should write a book. Honestly. As for: "I'm glad you mentioned that, as it was very much in my mind as I was considering my remarks on Frenzy and 1941, and how the smaller and more lightweight cameras in use by the '70s facilitated the employment of many such innovations." Ain't it so? Thinking now of the arriflex, so easy for hand-held shots in the '70s. But things are even more radically different now, with people making films with hand-sized digital cameras. Unbelievable. I started on 8mm, graduated to 35mm, etc., and today they (mostly) don't even use film of any size. I think even Spielberg has finally surrendered to digital, and he was the most film loving guy in the world. Thanks for the kind words, although I can safely say that pretty much everything I've observed has been written, articulated and/or illustrated by others of more piercing insight, perception and imagination. I hope I haven't "threadjacked" in any way by going off on my Hitchcock tangents; it's just that your launching of this great topic of which I'm so appreciative has really gotten the little gray cells firing. With so many technical advancements of more recent decades making it possible to truly realize on the screen any images or events imaginable, one can only wonder at what some of the great pioneers of early days might have been able to accomplish with such tools at hand. But by the same token, I can only guess that easing the physical challenges once involved (and with your hands-on experience about which I'd love to hear more, you'd know better than I) has led conversely to stifling some measure of the engineering creativity that overcoming them historically brought about. Still, I don't mean to diminish the efforts of current-day tech wizards because, in a way, the artistic endeavor of creating images has come full circle to the time predating photography: how different, really, is one artist with only canvas, brushes, pigments and imagination from one who "paints in motion" with pixels at a monitor using mouse and keyboard, with only footage of an actor before a green screen as a jumping-off point? I confess I'm of two minds about the whole thing, but remain leaning toward the belief that because you can portray anything, pictorially speaking, doesn't necessarily suggest that you should.
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