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Post by northernlad on Jun 9, 2018 21:09:28 GMT
Since the original Halloween 2 was a continuation of the original Halloween I'm sure Harold Elrod existed and got his ham sandwich. There now exists a continuity where we get an answer to whether or not Harold wanted mayonnaise on his sandwich. Hopefully the film delves into this. I certainly hope so! I've wanted to know the answer to that question for years!
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Post by dodge4life on Jun 10, 2018 2:55:49 GMT
Somehow the idea of Myers being captive for 40 years from the night of the original just doesn't sit well with me. Vanishing into the night at the finale made him seem something beyond flesh and blood..........perhaps even a product of all the ancient, eerie superstition and folklore that we mock with candy, costumes and parties each year in October. It made us wonder if he was indeed the Bogeyman.........or something equivalent and beyond our comprehension. It fit the setting, mood and occasion and left us much to ponder. For him to have been merely picked up that night by the authorities and presumably fed, treated, clothed and familiarised with over 4 decades, just relegates him to the level of regular violent inmate - the kind that we have aplenty. His face, behaviour, profile and existence would be so well documented and exposed over 4 decades that there'd be little mystery to him at all. We'd have had a trial, extensive photos, video footage, documentaries and who knows how many books/magazine articles all about the 1978 Halloween killer over 40 years that the dark, unfathomable enigma of The Shape would no longer exist...........and for me, that dark enigma - fuelled by Pleasence's ominous descriptions and warnings, are what kept us edgy with grim anticipation in the original. I'm not sure why Laurie expects him to be after her or her kin since she is not his sister. That just seems a by-product of having Curtis on board again. I like Jamie Lee but without her being Myers sister, there's no real reason for her to be centre stage or for Myers to specifically target her. He might as well be back in Haddonfield stalking young girls who remind him of Judith (which was very much his implied motive and agenda in the original). My hope is that the film still finds a way to entertain - and I believe it can. I doubt however that it will intrigue, surprise or scare. I'm on the fence with this. Do I like the idea of them ignoring ALL the sequels and having it take place after the original? I'm not sure. But they didn't have many options. I like HII, but Michael was shot in the eyes and then burned in Halloween II. If that was canon, then Michael somehow survived the explosion, then Michael would at least blind. A blind Michael Myers as the killer wouldn't be much fun. You'd have to make Michael into a superhuman figure that he became in the latter sequels (ala Jason) when he was human in the original. I like the idea of a human Michael more than the cliche superhuman horror villain who dies and keeps coming back. With them being siblings, that was created for Part II. And I understand why they left it off. Giving Michael Myers a motive for terrorizing people defeats the purpose of the original. He is, by nature, evil. Nothing contributed to his evilness. He was evil at birth. Rob Zombie also missed the point when he made Myers a victim of child abuse, poor white trash, school bullying. Explaining Michael's behaviors with environmental reasons makes him less scary than how he was portrayed in the original: naturally evil. Also, with Myers being the "Boogeyman," he's scarier knowing he's not after only his siblings. Making him a sibling of Strobe makes him less scary.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 10, 2018 6:50:56 GMT
why would 60+ aged Mike Myers be a threat?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 7:07:42 GMT
why would 60+ aged Mike Myers be a threat?
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Post by scabab on Jun 10, 2018 8:38:07 GMT
Looks pretty good. I hope it's more suspense than gore.
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Post by northernlad on Jun 11, 2018 4:23:29 GMT
Somehow the idea of Myers being captive for 40 years from the night of the original just doesn't sit well with me. Vanishing into the night at the finale made him seem something beyond flesh and blood..........perhaps even a product of all the ancient, eerie superstition and folklore that we mock with candy, costumes and parties each year in October. It made us wonder if he was indeed the Bogeyman.........or something equivalent and beyond our comprehension. It fit the setting, mood and occasion and left us much to ponder. For him to have been merely picked up that night by the authorities and presumably fed, treated, clothed and familiarised with over 4 decades, just relegates him to the level of regular violent inmate - the kind that we have aplenty. His face, behaviour, profile and existence would be so well documented and exposed over 4 decades that there'd be little mystery to him at all. We'd have had a trial, extensive photos, video footage, documentaries and who knows how many books/magazine articles all about the 1978 Halloween killer over 40 years that the dark, unfathomable enigma of The Shape would no longer exist...........and for me, that dark enigma - fuelled by Pleasence's ominous descriptions and warnings, are what kept us edgy with grim anticipation in the original. I'm not sure why Laurie expects him to be after her or her kin since she is not his sister. That just seems a by-product of having Curtis on board again. I like Jamie Lee but without her being Myers sister, there's no real reason for her to be centre stage or for Myers to specifically target her. He might as well be back in Haddonfield stalking young girls who remind him of Judith (which was very much his implied motive and agenda in the original). My hope is that the film still finds a way to entertain - and I believe it can. I doubt however that it will intrigue, surprise or scare. In all seriousness, I have to agree with this post about what we know so far. They've dropped the sister angle and I still question that aspect of the movie. Not sure if it was the right way to go and judging from what I've read on social media sites, it is already causing some confusion with fans. I don't like that they apparently captured him back in 78 and he has been locked away this entire time. I wish they had left it as it was, he disappeared into the night back in 78 and wasn't seen again until now.
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Post by Lebowskidoo π¦ on Jun 11, 2018 11:28:54 GMT
Predicting a new trend in horror sequels, forgetting all the sequels/remakes and just making a direct follow-up to the original, after this movie comes out.
Let's hope neither Laurie or Michael breaks a hip, or that's the end of this franchise revival.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jun 19, 2018 21:38:52 GMT
Somehow the idea of Myers being captive for 40 years from the night of the original just doesn't sit well with me. Vanishing into the night at the finale made him seem something beyond flesh and blood..........perhaps even a product of all the ancient, eerie superstition and folklore that we mock with candy, costumes and parties each year in October. It made us wonder if he was indeed the Bogeyman.........or something equivalent and beyond our comprehension. It fit the setting, mood and occasion and left us much to ponder. For him to have been merely picked up that night by the authorities and presumably fed, treated, clothed and familiarised with over 4 decades, just relegates him to the level of regular violent inmate - the kind that we have aplenty. His face, behaviour, profile and existence would be so well documented and exposed over 4 decades that there'd be little mystery to him at all. We'd have had a trial, extensive photos, video footage, documentaries and who knows how many books/magazine articles all about the 1978 Halloween killer over 40 years that the dark, unfathomable enigma of The Shape would no longer exist...........and for me, that dark enigma - fuelled by Pleasence's ominous descriptions and warnings, are what kept us edgy with grim anticipation in the original. I'm not sure why Laurie expects him to be after her or her kin since she is not his sister. That just seems a by-product of having Curtis on board again. I like Jamie Lee but without her being Myers sister, there's no real reason for her to be centre stage or for Myers to specifically target her. He might as well be back in Haddonfield stalking young girls who remind him of Judith (which was very much his implied motive and agenda in the original). My hope is that the film still finds a way to entertain - and I believe it can. I doubt however that it will intrigue, surprise or scare. In all seriousness, I have to agree with this post about what we know so far. They've dropped the sister angle and I still question that aspect of the movie. Not sure if it was the right way to go and judging from what I've read on social media sites, it is already causing some confusion with fans. I don't like that they apparently captured him back in 78 and he has been locked away this entire time. I wish they had left it as it was, he disappeared into the night back in 78 and wasn't seen again until now. I'll buy that the police apprehended him if it's a damn good explanation. If they're pushing for a more realistic interpretation of Michael, then considering he took six shots, then yeah, he'd be wounded and had to stop somewhere and the police most likely just caught up to him. Hope we maybe get a prologue/flashback of it
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Post by theshape25 on Jun 21, 2018 7:00:39 GMT
There now exists a continuity where we get an answer to whether or not Harold wanted mayonnaise on his sandwich. Hopefully the film delves into this. I certainly hope so! I've wanted to know the answer to that question for years! Maybe they will do side movies like they are with Star Wars. Harold's Sandwich: A Halloween Story
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Post by northernlad on Jun 21, 2018 13:24:22 GMT
I certainly hope so! I've wanted to know the answer to that question for years! Maybe they will do side movies like they are with Star Wars. Harold's Sandwich: A Halloween Story
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jun 21, 2018 22:14:33 GMT
I certainly hope so! I've wanted to know the answer to that question for years! Maybe they will do side movies like they are with Star Wars. Harold's Sandwich: A Halloween Story Mayo: An Elrod Story
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jun 21, 2018 22:15:52 GMT
If they could somehow work Paul Rudd back into the franchise, the producers would forever have my respect.
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