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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 10, 2018 13:53:02 GMT
Pros - Probably the best of the DCEU movies thus far. Most will say Wonder Woman but I'll damned if I actually remember anything about it. General Zod being a villain with an actual purpose and not evil simply because. Russell Crowe fares better than Brando as Jor-El. Kevin Costner as Pa Kent. Unlike Superman Returns, the movie has momentum. Superman taking flight for the first time.
Cons - Some of the action gets repetitive, especially with Superman and Zod eradicating half the population of Metropolis. Henry Cavill is giving me an inferiority complex.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 14:31:24 GMT
Pros - Probably the best of the DCEU movies thus far. Most will say Wonder Woman but I'll damned if I actually remember anything about it. General Zod being a villain with an actual purpose and not evil simply because. Russell Crowe fares better than Brando as Jor-El. Kevin Costner as Pa Kent. Unlike Superman Returns, the movie has momentum. Superman taking flight for the first time.
Cons - Some of the action gets repetitive, especially with Superman and Zod eradicating half the population of Metropolis. Henry Cavill is giving me an inferiority complex.
Couldn't agree more. It was originally conceived as a trilogy akin to The Dark Knight trilogy with Nolan as producer. When it failed to make 800M+ WW, they decided to make BvS as the sequel to boost money. Change three things and it's a 80% + on RT and makes 1B at the WW box Office and remains a stand alone trilogy not a shared universe. A) Cut the Zod Fight at the end, make the climax Superman flying into the World Engine, that scene was beautiful. So after it explodes, the crashing of the ship sends the kryponians to the Phantom Zone. The fight in Smallville should have included Zod, no need for another fight. B) Have Pa Kent die from cancer. You don't want to repeat the heart attack thing, but Clark learning he can't save him even with all of his powers is a deeper lesson. C) Cut out the "He's kinda hawt" scene, and the "You just have to trust me" government thing. Have Clark holding Lois' hand at ground zero, not a kiss after Zod and Co are sucked into the Phantom Zone. Then it cuts to the gravesite with Clark and his mom talking about Pa Kent. Maybe add a post credits scene where Superman is at ground zero rebuilding the damage like Bruce at his mansion at the end of Batman Begins. He tells Lois he's going to learn and grow or something and rebuild. |
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Post by ck100 on Jun 10, 2018 15:06:46 GMT
Pro - Amy Adams
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 10, 2018 15:08:10 GMT
Pro
- I don't have to watch it again.
Con
- General Zod was stupid & that arc was ridiculous.
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Post by James on Jun 10, 2018 17:15:12 GMT
Pros:
-The gritty direction it took. I'm glad they at least did something different for the Superman character.
-Inspirational moments.
-Stunning action scenes.
-The score, while not as iconic or as good as the 78 film, is great.
Cons:
-"I will find him!"
-The way they handled Pa Kent's death. Why the hell couldn't have he just let him show his powers? It ain't a big deal.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 10, 2018 17:22:47 GMT
I generally agree with the OP and James. Though I do think that Wonder Woman ironed out the structural issues I had with MoS; the nonlinear storytelling really adds nothing. As a complaint, I didn't like the shakey cam randomly occurring. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 22:08:01 GMT
Pros
Faora is mesmerizing
Faora beating up Superman and the soldiers? Awesome!
Decent cast
Solid effects
Cons
Krypton looks ridiculous, way too much going to be believable
Don't like the score at all
Henry Cavill looks the part but not quite right for the role otherwise, especially when he becomes Clark Kent at the Planet
Amy Adams is Amy Adams, which some like, I don't
No chemistry between Superman and Lois Lane
Superman looks incredibly uncomfortable when he is flying (makes me appreciate what Reeve was able to do)
The death of Pa Kent was unnecessary
The main villain not very engaging (especially compared to Stamp)
The punching becomes boring fast and there is a lot of punching (except when it's Faora)
Superman being a dick to the trucker? Good for a laugh but really out of character.
Superman's suit is the worst one yet
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 10, 2018 22:12:07 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 10, 2018 22:58:20 GMT
Pros:
Michael Shannon as Zod
A darker, more realistic take on the character is a good idea *in theory*
Some cool action
Hans Zimmer
Cons:
Superman is the most boring character in his own movie, and the realistic take does nothing to humanize him or make him more relatable - the opposite occurs, in fact
The other characters, minus Zod and Jor-El, aren't a whole lot less boring.
Pa Rand
The stain glass Jesus in the background of Clark might be the most amateur attempt at symbolism ever put on a film
Superman and Lois making out at ground zero while trying to be Keanu and Sandra
Superman destroying the satellite at the end like a proto-dictator
You go through all that effort to put Superman in a grittier world, then keep the glasses disguise? You can't have it both ways.
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Post by kolchak92 on Jun 10, 2018 23:44:34 GMT
Probably the best of the DCEU movies thus far. Most will say Wonder Woman but I'll damned if I actually remember anything about it.
It's good, but still think Batman vs Superman and Justice League were big improvements. I love the first part of Man of Steel; Krypton and Smallville were done amazingly well, but the movie basically loses me once the action gets to Metropolis with Superman and Zod basically spending the remainder of the movie wrecking the city. I thought Batman vs Superman was more consistently good. |
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Post by johnspartan on Jun 10, 2018 23:44:47 GMT
Laughably bad, pathetic joke of a movie. Cringiest line from Zod "You live on a farrrrrrrm!!!!"
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Post by marth on Jun 12, 2018 3:32:57 GMT
ProsFaora beating up Superman and the soldiers? Awesome!Cons Amy Adams is Amy Adams, (yes, she´s playing Amy Adams and on the other hand, she´s 9 years older than Cavill and that´s not good) No chemistry between Superman and Lois LaneThe death of Pa Kent was unnecessarySuperman's suit is the worst one yet (This!) Agree with all of these. I am not a fan of this movie, but I have to say I really like the first half. |
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