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Post by teleadm on Mar 18, 2017 14:23:09 GMT
Hepburn and Mitchum were mismatched in real life and both were cast against type ,adding to the confusion. I love this film but this is a problem, having Hepburn play a Teresa Wright type tomboy girl and Mitchum an artistic boy with sensitive ways. Have you seen Mitchum as the bohemian painter in The Locket? Or perhaps my favorite -- as a Tulane professor in My ForbiddenAccording to what I've read, it's OK if you correct me, Howard Hughes when he owned RKO and used it as a playground, Robert Mitchum was groomed as a male Jane Russell, a sort of male femme fatale (homme fatale?)... |
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Post by Richard Kimble on Mar 18, 2017 14:44:56 GMT
According to what I've read, it's OK if you correct me, Howard Hughes when he owned RKO and used it as a playground, Robert Mitchum was groomed as a male Jane Russell, a sort of male femme fatale (homme fatale?)... Not sure what you're getting at, but Mitchum was RKO's biggest contract player until he left in '53 -- indeed he was really the biggest leading man RKO ever had: Astaire was not a leading man, and Cary Grant was never under exclusive contract. Hughes did stay loyal to Mitchum after the pot bust, which ironically turned out to be a big break, perfectly fitting Mitchum's rebel persona. But once Mitchum became a star Hughes didn't use him very well, oddly casting him as the male lead in films spotlighting the strong female role: Where Danger Lives, Angel Face, My Forbidden Past. Mitchum did get a couple of decent noir roles like The Big Steal and the enjoyably nutty His Kind Of Woman, but not enough of them. And IIRC after Blood On The Moon he never made another western for RKO -- a waste of his talents, not being used in the genre about to enter its golden age. |
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Post by teleadm on Mar 18, 2017 15:05:50 GMT
According to what I've read, it's OK if you correct me, Howard Hughes when he owned RKO and used it as a playground, Robert Mitchum was groomed as a male Jane Russell, a sort of male femme fatale (homme fatale?)... Not sure what you're getting at, but Mitchum was RKO's biggest contract player until he left in '53 -- indeed he was really the biggest leading man RKO ever had: Astaire was not a leading man, and Cary Grant was never under exclusive contract. Hughes did stay loyal to Mitchum after the pot bust, which ironically turned out to be a big break, perfectly fitting Mitchum's rebel persona. But once Mitchum became a star Hughes didn't use him very well, oddly casting him as the male lead in films spotlighting the strong female role: Where Danger Lives, Angel Face, My Forbidden Past. Mitchum did get a couple of decent noir roles like The Big Steal and the enjoyably nutty His Kind Of Woman, but not enough of them. And IIRC after Blood On The Moon he never made another western for RKO -- a waste of his talents, not being used in the genre about to enter its golden age. My sources was a coffee table book caled "The RKO Story", and "The Film of Robert Mitchum" pocket version. Prined in the early 1980's when He was still alive. so offcourse much have changed since then..... |
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Post by telegonus on Mar 19, 2017 6:13:12 GMT
Knowing now that Jim Davis spent most of his acting life in, what could it be called, "dime-a-dozen" westerns and late in life became Jock on Dallas, if I am correct he was actually "hand picked" by Bette to be a co-sar in this movie that I have never seen. I've only seen a few moments of it, long long ago. Davis (Jim) is pretty bad, and the script is even worse. Fortunately JD was able to retrench into western character work -- I recently saw a Tales Of Wells Fargo where he was very effective as a sympathetic outlaw. And of course he had the late-in-life triumph of Dallas: |
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Post by telegonus on Mar 19, 2017 6:47:29 GMT
Laurence Olivier and Marilyn Monroe, I remember I was very dissapointed at that movie. I don't know how to explain it, maybe too stage bound, and not funny enough. But at least they made an interesting movie out of the meeting a couple of years ago.... I seem to be in the extreme minority in actually liking The Prince And The Showgirl. Maybe catching it on the late movie at my aunt's house when I was a very young man helps. It struck me as a charming little comedy that just happened to star Laurence Olivier and Marilyn Monroe. The casting was awkward but consistent with the film's (and play's) theme.
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Post by fangirl1975 on Mar 19, 2017 18:59:36 GMT
Peter Cushing and Hazel Court |
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Post by Richard Kimble on Apr 17, 2017 16:42:50 GMT
Not a romantic pairing, but still an odd teaming that's easy to forget about:  This seems strange partly due to the fact that the two stars are not "connected" in the film. They are not romantic rivals, nor are they antagonists, even tradition-minded mentor vs rookie w/new ideas in the beloved Hollywood formula. Grant is the captain while Garfield is just another crew member. IIRC they have very few scenes together, and don't really interact in any significant way until the last act when Garfield agrees to go on a dangerous mission. Director Delmer Daves w/ Grant and Garfield:  |
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Post by teleadm on Apr 17, 2017 18:43:52 GMT
Not a romantic pairing, but still an odd teaming that's easy to forget about: This seems strange partly due to the fact that the two stars are not "connected" in the film. They are not romantic rivals, nor are they antagonists, even tradition-minded mentor vs rookie w/new ideas in the beloved Hollywood formula. Grant is the captain while Garfield is just another crew member. IIRC they have very few scenes together, and don't really interact in any significant way until the last act when Garfield agrees to go on a dangerous mission. I couldn't find any answer in my old books, so I can only guess, that Warner wanted to get two big names on the posters, and it seems that it worked since it was a winner at the box-office. Cary Grant was on "loan" from Columbia, and I think he at that time tried to break out of his normal movie persona, while Garfield was under contract with Warners and might not have much choice but to do it, or that he was "free to use" between productions. I see the name Dane Clark too on the poster, I think he was one of the many actors they tried to groom in to a star. |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 17, 2017 19:15:10 GMT
Paul Newman and Julie Andrews in Torn Curtain. I heard that Hitchcock thought the same thing.
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Post by taranofprydain on Mar 16, 2018 21:45:36 GMT
Robert Mitchum and Greer Garson in Desire Me. It worked on screen, just seems a bit odd on paper.
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Post by bravomailer on Mar 16, 2018 21:53:30 GMT
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