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Post by yezziqa on Jun 14, 2018 19:32:21 GMT
Oh, yeah, sure… Yes, it is. "God did it" is an easy and intellectually lazy way to "explain" away things you don't understand. It keeps people ignorant, which is an important aspect religions were created for, to control people. Ignorant people are easier to control. Actually, you are not that far off. I think the doctor in Star Trek Voyager said something like. "The mitochondria is an prokaryote that we invited to dinner billions of years ago and then never let it leave." It still has it's own DNA and you only inherite that DNA from your mother.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 14, 2018 20:04:24 GMT
Oh, yeah, sure… Yes, it is. "God did it" is an easy and intellectually lazy way to "explain" away things you don't understand. It keeps people ignorant, which is an important aspect religions were created for, to control people. Ignorant people are easier to control. God did it really is the best explanation we have.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 20:06:14 GMT
Yes, it is. "God did it" is an easy and intellectually lazy way to "explain" away things you don't understand. It keeps people ignorant, which is an important aspect religions were created for, to control people. Ignorant people are easier to control. God did it really is the best explanation we have. No. god is not an "explanation" at all, let alone a good one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 20:17:26 GMT
Yes, it is. "God did it" is an easy and intellectually lazy way to "explain" away things you don't understand. It keeps people ignorant, which is an important aspect religions were created for, to control people. Ignorant people are easier to control. God did it really is the best explanation we have. No it really is not.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 14, 2018 20:20:42 GMT
God did it really is the best explanation we have. No it really is not. Yes it really is. It’s irrational and completely ridiculous to think that this universe and life created itself.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 14, 2018 20:37:46 GMT
God did it really is the best explanation we have. So, it is true because the title of a Youtube video says so? A "lecture" by Dr William Lane Craig has nothing to do with real science or truth. It's about justifying your delusions with witty word games. Many fall for it. So did you apparently. And you think it’s not deluded to believe the universe could create itself out of nothing? Get outta town!!
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 14, 2018 20:58:38 GMT
Yes, it is. "God did it" is an easy and intellectually lazy way to "explain" away things you don't understand. It keeps people ignorant, which is an important aspect religions were created for, to control people. Ignorant people are easier to control. God did it really is the best explanation we have. The same old completely stupid crap in that video. And the same old problems with it, of course. For example, if we need to explain the ball, why don't we need to explain god?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 14, 2018 21:00:37 GMT
Yes it really is. It’s irrational and completely ridiculous to think that this universe and life created itself. Why is it any less irrational and completely ridiculous to think that either God created itself or always existed? In short, if it's irrational and completely ridiculous to think that either something created itself or always existed, then it hardly matters what the something is. Either everything, including God, is included there or not.
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 14, 2018 21:06:42 GMT
Yes it really is. It’s irrational and completely ridiculous to think that this universe and life created itself. How is it more ridiculous than the idea that there is a deity so powerful that he can create universes? Did he create himself? First we need to know what university is about to know what it takes to create one or whether it is even necessory to create anything. Time as we know it doesn't exist "outside" our university. Time is a property of our university. So, asking what was before the creation is like asking what is north of north pole. Your puny mind can't understand how universes can emerge from nothing so you fall for religion. I try to understand and partly I maybe even understand. On quantum level "nothing" is not what we think nothing means. On quantum level nothing is bubbling and universes can emerge from that bubbling. We can have a universe from "nothing" where gravity zeros out mass and energy so that the total energy is zero. Even if we knew a deity created our universe, we'd still had to know which one did it. God, Allah, Zeus, Thor, Spagetti Monster or perhaps some other deity? Mankind has created thousand of them over the centuries. LOL
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 14, 2018 21:49:12 GMT
"Life does not come from non-life."
No, actually you don't know that. I suggest getting your "science" from somewhere other than Answer in Genesis.
"So where did the first living single celled organism come from?"
I dunno, there's several theories though, you're welcome to research them yourselves. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
Well is there any evidence to the contrary? All the observable evidence we have suggests life comes from life. You’re welcome to educate me. Abiogenesis....you think will ever come when sciencists accept that it’s an impossibility? "Abiogenesis....you think will ever come when sciencists accept that it’s an impossibility?"
Why would they? Again there's already been scientific theories made on it.
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Post by goz on Jun 14, 2018 21:57:52 GMT
How is it more ridiculous than the idea that there is a deity so powerful that he can create universes? Did he create himself? First we need to know what university is about to know what it takes to create one or whether it is even necessory to create anything. Time as we know it doesn't exist "outside" our university. Time is a property of our university. So, asking what was before the creation is like asking what is north of north pole. Your puny mind can't understand how universes can emerge from nothing so you fall for religion. I try to understand and partly I maybe even understand. On quantum level "nothing" is not what we think nothing means. On quantum level nothing is bubbling and universes can emerge from that bubbling. We can have a universe from "nothing" where gravity zeros out mass and energy so that the total energy is zero. Even if we knew a deity created our universe, we'd still had to know which one did it. God, Allah, Zeus, Thor, Spagetti Monster or perhaps some other deity? Mankind has created thousand of them over the centuries. LOL I LOL at your LOL because it is indicative of your own special stupidity that you time and time again reveal on these boards.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 22:29:28 GMT
Yes it really is. It’s irrational and completely ridiculous to think that this universe and life created itself. No it isn't. But even if it were, it would be even more ridiculous to suppose that both were created by a ghost that exists for no reason at all.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 15, 2018 10:37:09 GMT
Where did the first single cell organism come from? I'm probably wrong, but my guess is two half-cell organisms came together. Even if wrong, it's more rational than to scream "God did it!" which translates "I don't know/understand and I don't even want to know/understand."The building blocks of life are apparently not even that rare. Witnesses the recent discoveries on Mars, just one planet along.
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Post by redhorizon on Jun 15, 2018 21:37:12 GMT
Religious indoctrination is child abuse. Sorry to hear you had it ruff, but in the end you found your way out. I had it so easy for having secular parents... Thank You!
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Post by theauxphou on Jun 16, 2018 11:26:55 GMT
I wasn’t born a gullible mongoloid. Also, why not?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 12:02:02 GMT
I wasn’t born a gullible mongoloid. Also, why not? I have met many fellow atheists who are gullible so being gullible is also something you can be even if you don`t believe in religious fairy tales.
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Post by theauxphou on Jun 16, 2018 12:11:36 GMT
I wasn’t born a gullible mongoloid. Also, why not? I have met many fellow atheists who are gullible so being gullible is also something you can be even if you don`t believe in religious fairy tales. Yeah, but there are degrees of gullibility. My horoscope says so.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jun 16, 2018 12:26:46 GMT
I wasn’t born a gullible mongoloid. Also, why not? I have met many fellow atheists who are gullible so being gullible is also something you can be even if you don`t believe in religious fairy tales. His comment doesn't imply that their are no gullible atheists. It does however imply that there are no religious believers who are not gullible in at least some regard. Well, who are not gullible mongoloids. And that is If we take it completely seriously/literally rather than as something more in the vein of stylistic literary or rhetorical device, which it should clearly read as to everyone.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 16, 2018 21:50:40 GMT
I looked at the "evidence" for God/religion, realized they weren't really evidence, but rather flimsy arguments (you can't disprove God, Pascal's wager, watchmaker argument, morality argument, etc). Admitingly I don't really care as much about Christianity as I used to as it's being replaced with a new dogma(tumbler feminism)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 1:24:31 GMT
Because I'm not prone to hubristic delusions which affirm the meaning and value of my existence, and I wasn't indoctrinated by my parents into believing in God.
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