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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 14, 2018 21:50:13 GMT
lol. Yep, well said. It is basic Conservatism 101 and people should start paying close attention to it. If they did, if they learned what conservatism was really all about, no Republican would ever get elected again. So let's get this straight-you think if people champion the works of Shakespeare, that this makes them evil? Even though he was writing strong roles for women like 400 years before Steinem was born? And his audience was all of society-rich and poor?
You sir, are a barbarian.
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 14, 2018 21:52:44 GMT
lol. Yep, well said. It is basic Conservatism 101 and people should start paying close attention to it. If they did, if they learned what conservatism was really all about, no Republican would ever get elected again. So let's get this straight-you think if people champion the works of Shakespeare, that this makes them evil? Even though he was writing strong roles for women like 400 years before Steinem was born? And his audience was all of society-rich and poor?
You sir, are a barbarian.
You do know those roles were played by men right? "Shakespeare in love" is not a documentary. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 14, 2018 22:05:07 GMT
You do know those roles were played by men right? "Shakespeare in love" is not a documentary. Of course I do, but the roles were women, just like the head of the country was a woman. And I agree, Shakespeare in Love was no documentary. Can't expect much realism from a Weinstein production.
He had Neve Campbell's father tucked away in a closet in Scream even though it defied common sense and physics. Perish the thought that she untie him to help her stop the two killers.
Sigh, liberals and their storytelling quirks.
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 14, 2018 22:38:48 GMT
You do know those roles were played by men right? "Shakespeare in love" is not a documentary. Of course I do, but the roles were women, just like the head of the country was a woman. And I agree, Shakespeare in Love was no documentary. Can't expect much realism from a Weinstein production.
He had Neve Campbell's father tucked away in a closet in Scream even though it defied common sense and physics. Perish the thought that she untie him to help her stop the two killers.
Sigh, liberals and their storytelling quirks.
Nonsence, the roles were written for men, by men and had absolutely nothing to do with the life as a woman. It's like you think that if you write a role about a greek hero, cast a blond and blue eyed guy to play the part, it isn't whitewashing and is also a historical example of what greek men looked like.  Elisabeth I never married, do you know why that is? |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 14, 2018 22:41:48 GMT
You do know those roles were played by men right? "Shakespeare in love" is not a documentary. Of course I do, but the roles were women, just like the head of the country was a woman. And I agree, Shakespeare in Love was no documentary. Can't expect much realism from a Weinstein production.
He had Neve Campbell's father tucked away in a closet in Scream even though it defied common sense and physics. Perish the thought that she untie him to help her stop the two killers.
Sigh, liberals and their storytelling quirks.
You keep using that word. I'm not sure it means what you think it means. |
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 14, 2018 22:44:53 GMT
I never seen the movie but just to comment on that stuff a little in general... it's just liberals who see stuff that way nowadays. it's like they feel guilty for being white and are more for minorities etc just because they are a minority and then end up takings things too far etc.
o well. they went too far off the rails in the last 20-50 years or so and won't be coming back anytime soon.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 14, 2018 22:53:13 GMT
I never seen the movie but just to comment on that stuff a little in general... it's just liberals who see stuff that way nowadays. it's like they feel guilty for being white and are more for minorities etc just because they are a minority and then end up takings things too far etc. o well. they went too far off the rails in the last 20-50 years or so and won't be coming back anytime soon. 50 years ago, liberals were fighting to give women and minorities equal rights/equal pay. That's going off the rails? Interesting. |
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 14, 2018 22:54:39 GMT
I never seen the movie but just to comment on that stuff a little in general... it's just liberals who see stuff that way nowadays. it's like they feel guilty for being white and are more for minorities etc just because they are a minority and then end up takings things too far etc. o well. they went too far off the rails in the last 20-50 years or so and won't be coming back anytime soon. 50 years ago, liberals were fighting to give women and minorities equal rights/equal pay. That's going off the rails? Interesting. They are still trying but conservatives, who are opposed to equal rights and equal pay, keep getting in the way. Welcome to Trump's America. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 14, 2018 22:59:50 GMT
50 years ago, liberals were fighting to give women and minorities equal rights/equal pay. That's going off the rails? Interesting. They are still trying but conservatives, who are opposed to equal rights and equal pay, keep getting in the way. Welcome to Trump's America. Not to mention their hatred of the gay and trans communities. Oh, and brown foreigners. Can't forget them. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 14, 2018 23:59:16 GMT
Nonsence, the roles were written for men, by men and had absolutely nothing to do with the life as a woman. It's like you think that if you write a role about a greek hero, cast a blond and blue eyed guy to play the part, it isn't whitewashing and is also a historical example of what greek men looked like. So do you see a future where only those who are what they are write about themselves?
So men can only write about men, women only about women? etc?
There were blonde and blue eyed Greeks. You do know that one of the descriptive titles for Athena was "the grey-eyed goddess?"
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 15, 2018 0:00:03 GMT
You keep using that word. I'm not sure it means what you think it means. I can use gravity if it makes you feel better.
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 15, 2018 0:59:21 GMT
Nonsence, the roles were written for men, by men and had absolutely nothing to do with the life as a woman. It's like you think that if you write a role about a greek hero, cast a blond and blue eyed guy to play the part, it isn't whitewashing and is also a historical example of what greek men looked like. So do you see a future where only those who are what they are write about themselves?
So men can only write about men, women only about women? etc?
There were blonde and blue eyed Greeks. You do know that one of the descriptive titles for Athena was "the grey-eyed goddess?"
Now you are just avoiding the subject. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 15, 2018 1:06:25 GMT
Now you are just avoiding the subject. No. I was attempting to investigate your beliefs with closer scrutiny to find the coherence that was not readily apparent and you don't want to join that expedition. |
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Post by sostie on Jun 15, 2018 10:46:20 GMT
The original Ghostbusters is a piece of pro-tobacco propaganda. It's also anti-ghost. But no one seems to complain about that.
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Post by yezziqa on Jun 15, 2018 12:29:32 GMT
Now you are just avoiding the subject. No. I was attempting to investigate your beliefs with closer scrutiny to find the coherence that was not readily apparent and you don't want to join that expedition. My beliefs? I think you mean my views, they are as always coherant. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 15, 2018 14:30:02 GMT
You keep using that word. I'm not sure it means what you think it means. I can use gravity if it makes you feel better.
I guess that'd make just as little sense. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 15, 2018 14:31:24 GMT
The original Ghostbusters is a piece of pro-tobacco propaganda. It's also anti-ghost. But no one seems to complain about that. The US has always had an anti-ghost agenda. As far back as the Headless Horseman and the stereotypical way he's portrayed as a menace. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 15, 2018 14:32:23 GMT
Nonsence, the roles were written for men, by men and had absolutely nothing to do with the life as a woman. It's like you think that if you write a role about a greek hero, cast a blond and blue eyed guy to play the part, it isn't whitewashing and is also a historical example of what greek men looked like. So do you see a future where only those who are what they are write about themselves?
So men can only write about men, women only about women? etc?
There were blonde and blue eyed Greeks. You do know that one of the descriptive titles for Athena was "the grey-eyed goddess?"
You know Athena was fictional, right? |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 15, 2018 15:10:27 GMT
My beliefs? I think you mean my views, they are as always coherant. I am sure you believe that. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 15, 2018 15:11:39 GMT
I guess that'd make just as little sense. Only if you want to recreate reality along SJW ideology-which appears to be the case. |
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