Post by leesilm on Jun 15, 2018 16:12:26 GMT
Nalkarj
Broadway, movies, the whole works. I’ve never thought of it as a problem (does anyone see it as a problem?), I’m just intrigued by acting, theatre, singing, lyricizing, opera,etc. (I was raised in a musical family.)
also, Classical music can be great at times given the right song but sometimes that's quite dull to as some songs just don't convey much of a emotional response etc and music is pretty much all about that.
leesilm
I never quite understood why people get so passionately, "OH MY GOSH I HATE THEM" when asked if they liked musicals. If you ask people, "Do you like Horror films?", or, "Do you like Historical Dramas?", they usually answer with, "No, not really", or, "Not my cup of tea, but the occasional one can be good", but musicals people are answer with more of a, "I DETEST THOSE VILE THINGS!" when asked if they enjoy musicals. Granted, the affirmative, "Yes I like them" generally comes out as, "OH MY GOSH I LOVE THEM", so maybe people just respond very passionately to musicals, positive or negative. So not like Opera, according to Edward Louis, where you either love it, hate it, or can come to appreciate it but without it becoming part of your soul.
but just about everything else you said seems to be the case as I think Horror movies are generally a dime-a-dozen but there are a small amount of gems out there. basically they don't stand out in a negative way like Musicals do on an average as I think that's why many dis musicals and are more vocal about it like you mentioned. but with Musical's it seems many dislike them but then there seems to be a smaller amount of people who are more passionate about them in a positive way(?).
I suspect musicals are probably more of a female thing than male thing as in terms of us males I suspect they are near universally disliked. like it's THE genre that's easy to bash since even though Horror etc might have plenty that are a dime-a-dozen you still find some quality once in a while unlike Musicals that just don't stand out to any worthwhile degree and are typically more consistently crap to where 'average' looks good in comparison.
but the song at the beginning it was so hard to understand what anyone was saying
OldAussie
It took me 5 attempts over 30 years to watch The Sound of Music from start to finish - and I actually liked it.
I would have said the hell with it well before that if it was that difficult to finish for that long period of time. but with that said... maybe your tastes in movies finally changed enough (since you mentioned 30 years) to where you now like some movies you previously did not(?).
I do agree, I think that guys don't tend to bash Horror flicks, because of how easily you can find a gem and because they are seen as movies guys are supposed to like (if only to scare girls into climbing into the sturdy, strong arms of their fella). Whereas musicals are 'for girls', with all the singing, glitzy costumes, and such. Back when I was in high school, there was an entire table of theatre-groupies (I guess that's what they'd be called now, then they were 'musical kids' who all played instruments, sang, danced, or were obsessed with musicals) and to get into the group, you had to be able to sing the lyrics from a couple musicals-- there were no boys at that table. Musicals are everything western culture seems to try to brow-beat out of boys from birth, practically.
I agree though, the quality is greatly dependent on how it makes you feel. For instance, the "ALL I ASK OF YOU" sung between Christine & Raoul rarely (in my experience, from the fans I know, in my life) stirs the way that the version done by the Phantom at the end, does. Mostly the same lyrics, beautiful song no matter which male is singing, but the Phantoms just has this longing to it that the Raoul version doesn't seem to have. If you don't feel the music, then it might as well be elevator music in the background of scene. The whole point is there is a heightened feel to a musical, it isn't just that there is music and people do some singing. To butcher a line from SISTER ACT, it isn't just quacking- it is supposed to be rejoicing, to be this big feeling, a celebration, a communal moment.