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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2018 16:47:44 GMT
Civil War Number of people saved by the Avengers = ZERO Number of people killed by the actions of the Avengers = PLENTY (in the building that Scarlet Witch caused the bomb to blow out the side of)
Infinity War Number of people saved by the Avengers = ZERO Number of people killed by the actions of the Avengers = BILLIONS (killed by the Infinity Stones that Gamora and Doctor Strange helped Thanos, whom Starlord helped get free from the Avengers, to acquire)
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 16:57:52 GMT
Aren't superheroes suppsoed to save people?
It's funny. This is exactly what I was thinking during BvS when that guy's wheelchair exploded killing everyone and they cut back to "Superman" looking slightly upset.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 17, 2018 17:20:58 GMT
Superheroes are compelled to save human (and other sentient beings) lives. That doesn't mean that they will always be successful. Hee hee hee...
#OversimplificationBlues
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 17:28:55 GMT
Superheroes are compelled to save human (and other sentient beings) lives. That doesn't mean that they will always be successful. Hee hee hee... #OversimplificationBlues The DCEU "heroes " don't even try. Joss Whedon almost fixed the problem, but Batman and Superman were already irredeemable monsters.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 17, 2018 18:12:10 GMT
Fuck that! I want more films where the villain wins!
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 18:22:26 GMT
Captain America: I'm not leaving this rock with one civilian on it - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) scabab why you edit my post? I didn't do anything wrong!
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Post by politicidal on Jun 17, 2018 20:10:43 GMT
Aren't superheroes suppsoed to save people? It's funny. This is exactly what I was thinking during BvS when that guy's wheelchair exploded killing everyone and they cut back to "Superman" looking slightly upset. He did actually save someone afterward but Snyder cut it from the theatrical release.
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 20:33:17 GMT
Captain America: I'm not leaving this rock with one civilian on it - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
AKA
Joss Whedon: Take note, Zack Snyder and David Goyer. This is how it's done.
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Post by scabab on Jun 17, 2018 21:08:53 GMT
Captain America: I'm not leaving this rock with one civilian on it - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) scabab why you edit my post? I didn't do anything wrong! Because you randomly brought up Man of Steel. Why are you mentioning other DC movies? The OP only mentioned Civil War and Infinity War. That's just going to turn it into another Marvel/DC argument for the umpteenth time.
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 21:35:26 GMT
Captain America: I'm not leaving this rock with one civilian on it - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) scabab why you edit my post? I didn't do anything wrong! Because you randomly brought up Man of Steel. Why are you mentioning other DC movies? The OP only mentioned Civil War and Infinity War. That's just going to turn it into another Marvel/DC argument for the umpteenth time. I mentioned Man of Steel to annoy DC fan's nerves because he annoyed me first.
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Post by scabab on Jun 17, 2018 21:48:30 GMT
That's exactly what the op wanted. I mentioned Man of Steel to annoy DC fan's nerves because he annoyed me first. Well don't because that just makes matters worse when it turns into a mud slinging match. Your a Marvel fan, be pleased that they're as dominant as they are.
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 21:51:09 GMT
Civil War Number of people saved by the Avengers = ZERO Number of people killed by the actions of the Avengers = PLENTY (in the building that Scarlet Witch caused the bomb to blow out the side of)
Infinity War Number of people saved by the Avengers = ZERO Number of people killed by the actions of the Avengers = BILLIONS (killed by the Infinity Stones that Gamora and Doctor Strange helped Thanos, whom Starlord helped get free from the Avengers, to acquire) Didn't Cap save that soldier after Bucky knocked him off the stairs?
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Post by hobowar on Jun 17, 2018 22:24:45 GMT
The Avengers are probably going to save trillions of lives in Infinity War 2.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 17, 2018 23:40:51 GMT
Captain America: I'm not leaving this rock with one civilian on it - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) scabab why you edit my post? I didn't do anything wrong! Because you randomly brought up Man of Steel. Why are you mentioning other DC movies? The OP only mentioned Civil War and Infinity War. I actually can't take credit for this. Someone else mentioned on another forum that the Avengers didn't save anyone in Civil War. I just found it odd that 2 movies (Civil War and now Infinity War) the Avengers didn't save anyone. John Ritter single-handedly saved more people in Hero at Large than all the Avengers combined in Civil War and Infinity War did.
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Post by dazz on Jun 18, 2018 12:49:23 GMT
Because you randomly brought up Man of Steel. Why are you mentioning other DC movies? The OP only mentioned Civil War and Infinity War. I actually can't take credit for this. Someone else mentioned on another forum that the Avengers didn't save anyone in Civil War. I just found it odd that 2 movies (Civil War and now Infinity War) the Avengers didn't save anyone. John Ritter single-handedly saved more people in Hero at Large than all the Avengers combined in Civil War and Infinity War did. You cant take credit for anything because you never come up with anything or add to anything either, you simply parrot other peoples thoughts as your own and don't have the sense to figure out if they even make sense, so long as they fit your agenda you take it and regurgitate it elsewhere.
For instance the CW comment is bullshit, Wanda saved the people on the ground, sure she causes the death of others in their place but to say she saved no one is a LIE, now you want to play the numbers game well then it's all horseshit because we cant really say which one would kill more people, maybe the ground blast would kill more due to a full 360 area of people, or maybe the blast messing up the building causing rubble and such kills more, who knows? who cares? simple fact that statement is bullshit.
Not to mention it ignores the fact the Avengers stopped Crossbones and his crew selling the bio weapon they nicked on the black market or using it themselves, Wanda also possibly saved the lives of people in the building by clearing it of the gas, as there's no telling how long exposure to it was required o do permanent or even lethal damage.
Also just to pick you up on your math, BILLIONS is the number of people you can label as having "died" on earth, Thanos's success actually means TRILLIONS at a minimum died, also Thor managed to save half his people before Thanos and his crew got the Tesseract, so again that statement is BULLSHIT.
See this is why you need to think up your own stuff, you may have picked up on these things.... sorry couldn't keep a straight face bahahaha...now give it a rest you idiot.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jun 18, 2018 16:33:05 GMT
I actually can't take credit for this. Someone else mentioned on another forum that the Avengers didn't save anyone in Civil War. I just found it odd that 2 movies (Civil War and now Infinity War) the Avengers didn't save anyone. John Ritter single-handedly saved more people in Hero at Large than all the Avengers combined in Civil War and Infinity War did. the CW comment is bullshit, Wanda saved the people on the ground, sure she causes the death of others in their place It's not bullshit. The only reason Crossbones set off the bomb was because the Avengers chased him through a crowded market and surrounded him. If the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crosbones through a crowded market, then Crossbones might not have set off the bomb and no civilians would've died. It's no different than armed bank robbers trying to rob a bank and a lone armed security guard tries to play hero and get in a shootout with the bank robbers and innocent people get killed. If the security guard had just stood down, the bank robbers might have just taken the money and left without killing anyone. So no one can say for certain that Crossbones would've set off the bomb if the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crossbones through a crowded market. But we can say for sure that the people in the building wouldn't have died if the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crossbones through a crowded market and Scarlet Witch lifted the bomb that Crossbones set off as a reaction to being chased and surrounded by the Avengers into the air next to the building.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 18, 2018 17:02:08 GMT
the CW comment is bullshit, Wanda saved the people on the ground, sure she causes the death of others in their place It's not bullshit. The only reason Crossbones set off the bomb was because the Avengers chased him through a crowded market and surrounded him. If the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crosbones through a crowded market, then Crossbones might not have set off the bomb and no civilians would've died. It's no different than armed bank robbers trying to rob a bank and a lone armed security guard tries to play hero and get in a shootout with the bank robbers and innocent people get killed. If the security guard had just stood down, the bank robbers might have just taken the money and left without killing anyone. So o one can say for certain that Crossbones would've set off the bomb if the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crossbones through a crowded market. But we can say for sure that the people in the building wouldn't have died if the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crossbones through a crowded market and Scarlet Witch lifted the bomb that Crossbones set off as a reaction to being chased and surrounded by the Avengers into the air next to the building. Crossbones did say something to his henchmen which sounded rather suicidal. Like ‘where will we meet you?’ and Crossbones says ‘you won’t’, so I take it that he planned to kill Rogers via suicide vest. So he was seeking to confront Steve Rogers.
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Post by dazz on Jun 18, 2018 17:29:07 GMT
the CW comment is bullshit, Wanda saved the people on the ground, sure she causes the death of others in their place It's not bullshit. The only reason Crossbones set off the bomb was because the Avengers chased him through a crowded market and surrounded him. If the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crosbones through a crowded market, then Crossbones might not have set off the bomb and no civilians would've died. It's no different than armed bank robbers trying to rob a bank and a lone armed security guard tries to play hero and get in a shootout with the bank robbers and innocent people get killed. If the security guard had just stood down, the bank robbers might have just taken the money and left without killing anyone. So o one can say for certain that Crossbones would've set off the bomb if the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crossbones through a crowded market. But we can say for sure that the people in the building wouldn't have died if the Avengers hadn't been so reckless to chase Crossbones through a crowded market and Scarlet Witch lifted the bomb that Crossbones set off as a reaction to being chased and surrounded by the Avengers into the air next to the building. And as per usual you are too stupid to make a compelling argument properly so you ignore what else I had said to try and pretend you aren't the simple minded fuck knuckle you are.
Crossbones wasn't stealing money he stole a bio agent, he also already instigated violence and lethal measures against the people in the building they robbed from, this isn't comparable to a bank robbery where it's just money and the banks insured for that shit, they stole a dangerous substance, assaulted and possibly killed people to get it, not the same thing you simpleton.
Also it is bullshit because it's factually incorrect, like I said numbers wise maybe Wanda's actions caused more harm than good, maybe, but regardless she saved the people on the ground, and as stated by someone else Cap saved one of the guys falling to his death during the Bucky raid/chase, not to mention Cap also saved Bucky's life in that scene, hell T'Challa saved Zemo's life at the end of the film also, so yes it's bullshit because it's categorically untrue.
Now if the point made was actually superheroes are meant to do more good than harm then for CW you may have an argument, but it isn't the argument you made, or the statement you made, the one you made was bollocks, and even the revised argument doesn't hold up with infinity War because the Avengers don't cause that problem or are to blame, had they not got involved results would be the same so they cannot be held accountable for failing to stop a problem they had no hand in creating, the only one at fault in any shape in that regard is Gamora, without her help Thanos would never haver found of been able to obtain the stone, she alone can take blame, the rest of them simply fail to beat him which is not the same as causing the problem in the first place.
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Post by damngumby on Jun 18, 2018 18:32:57 GMT
Captain America: I'm not leaving this rock with one civilian on it - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) scabab why you edit my post? I didn't do anything wrong! Because you randomly brought up Man of Steel. Why are you mentioning other DC movies? The OP only mentioned Civil War and Infinity War. That's just going to turn it into another Marvel/DC argument for the umpteenth time. This is outrageous. The title of this thread is about "superheroes" in general. The OP only mentioned MCU movies because he is trolling MCU fans. If you're going to let the trolls run roughshod all over the forum, so be it ... as long as others are free to punch back. But holy Christ man, don't freakin' aid them! If you really want to reduce the Marvel/DC arguments, all you have to do is ban the worst instigator. One person, and the Marvel/DC ticky-tack arguments will drop by 90%.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jun 18, 2018 18:37:02 GMT
Because you randomly brought up Man of Steel. Why are you mentioning other DC movies? The OP only mentioned Civil War and Infinity War. That's just going to turn it into another Marvel/DC argument for the umpteenth time. This is outrageous. The title of this thread is about "superheroes" in general. The OP only mentioned MCU movies because he is trolling MCU fans. If you're going to let the trolls run roughshod all over the forum, so be it ... as long as others are free to punch back. But holy Christ man, don't freakin' aid them! If you really want to reduce the Marvel/DC arguments, all you have to do is ban the worst instigator. One person, and the Marvel/DC ticky-tack arguments will drop by 90%. Or, you could just put him on ignore, and quit you're constant bitching.
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