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Post by sariz on Mar 18, 2017 8:44:32 GMT
Ok im gonna say it depends.
If we are talking on judging if i think an actor is good-great
being a transformer like Daniel Day Lewis Meryl Streep and Ralph Fiennes. They just dissapear into the roles they portray physically and emotionally to the point of forget you are watching an actor they can even change their voices and do many accents with no problem.
Versatility which can go in two different ways.
playing different types of characters villains, good guys and romantic leading men like Leonardo DiCaprio or being great at different film or tv genres guys who feel equally good doing comedy or Drama the two most common genres examples: Robert Downey Jr Hugh Laurie and Julia Roberts.
Being good at showing the required emotions examples: Brad Pitt and Pierce Brosnan. Maybe they aren't great at transforming themselves or very versatile but they can definitely cry, show anger or express well the emotions of their characters.
Now if we are talking about the traits i enjoy the most in an actor
Charisma an actor with great charisma is just a pleasure to watch he/she can do anything and you just enjoy the film because of their prescence they can play themselves and you are perfectly fine with it.
Voice an actor with a very characteristic voice and/or very pleasant voice its really important for me, if hate a vouce of an actor its on my not to watch list.
Attractivness: i can't deny i always love to watch the actors and actresses i find the most attractive.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 18, 2017 9:57:56 GMT
given those choices, and considering it's referring to actors/actresses, i voted for... 1)Charisma (if i could choose only one option this would have to be it overall) 2)Being great on playing different emotions (always a great thing to have. i think Tom Hanks is one of the best at conveying emotion) 3)Versatility (but i imagine those with charisma and are good at projecting emotion tend to automatically have this choice) i would say that especially plays to actors but when it comes to actresses, since i am a male, attractiveness is a factor but even with that said general screen presence(which is probably closest to charisma on that chart and maybe some warmth etc) is always one of the biggest factors. but i guess it's more about warmth etc that actresses should project coming from my male perspective as some actresses presence are just too dry for my tastes which generally makes it harder to care about them on screen in general. so while attractiveness makes me a bit biased when it comes to who i like with actresses (not always, but mostly) i would assume the reverse is true with females in that they find actors attractive and that will sway their opinions on who they like to some degree also. but since i am a guy, attractiveness is not a factor when it comes to guys as it's just their general presence etc that helps sell them, that and some actors just tend to have a solid rep of appearing in good movies which i think is where your ultimately made or broke in the long term in whether most people will remember you or not is whether you land in movies people remember as the decades pass. just some thoughts as i am sure you could probably come up with a bunch of other things to say if one wanted to put a ton of time into a subject like this. p.s. i am going to assume Charisma will be either the most selected choice or close to it given without that you can't really command a screen in leading roles in different movies in general and it's the thing i think that separates the major names everyone knows from everyone else. that whole 'being a transformer' can be nice occasionally but typically a big name star has to have strong charisma and is more important than transformation as i think those who do the transformation stuff well tend to be more limited in what kinds of movies they can pull off well etc. like will probably be better at solid supporting roles than leading roles in general. i am sure people can come up with all kinds of different ways to see this general subject. NOTE: if the subject was just about actresses then since i am a male i would have likely voted for... Charisma/Versatility/Being Attractive. because from what i noticed those who tend to 'transform' (Cate Blanchett/Meryl Streep etc to name good examples for me) tend to lack charisma/general likability/presence etc from my point of view and their overall presence is too dry for my tastes. but since most movies i like tend to be mostly male dominated then i based my choices that i voted for around that which removed the whole attractiveness thing since that won't be a factor for me because i am a male. Yeah, like i basically already said in my general post, i am sure us males are biased a bit in what actresses we like because of that and the same goes for the females in what actors they like. but when watching those of the same sex as oneself, attractiveness is a non-issue(at least for the vast majority of people). as far as general voices... this is not really much of a issue here as long as one does not have a unappealing voice which the vast majority are fine here. but in terms of someones voice standing out in a positive way... it happens but it's typically a non-issue for me in that some peoples voices are a bit more appealing than others but when it comes to females, since females are attractive for me, certain accents can help make them a bit more attractive etc like Teresa Palmer for example as i like hearing her talk with her Australian accent which further adds to her hotness (she's one of the most attractive actresses for me in general) so with that said... given what you said, it appears we are basically on the same page even though, like i was saying, a unappealing voice is typically not a issue for me since it's no where near common(probably more on the semi-rare side of things) that i am watching a movie and find someone who's voice that stands out to me in a negative way. but just off the top of my head... there are certain British accents i find a bit annoying/unappealing. hell, even sticking within my own nationality(American) there are some that can be unappealing here and there but some of them are not in movies/shows. but like i say it's typically not much of a issue as i imagine your typical British person (or just people in general) does not fall into that category and is no big deal. p.s. good topic  side note: why is that spoiler text there as i accidentally clicked that twice even though i was not actually spoiler texting anything and it's apparently stuck in this reply even though when i edit the post to remove it, it appears nothing is there to remove.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 10:08:36 GMT
I love David Strathairn. He's utterly unrecognizable as himself in Dolores Claiborne.
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Post by movielover on Mar 18, 2017 16:18:16 GMT
Charisma and voice.
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Post by fangirl1975 on Mar 18, 2017 19:31:20 GMT
I chose, being a transformer, voice, and charisma.
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Post by bowilly on Mar 18, 2017 19:41:17 GMT
The one trait that stands out to me the most in any actor or actress is their ability to express emotions, particularly if they can convince me that they are experiencing the moment.
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Post by ck100 on Mar 18, 2017 20:07:57 GMT
Being able to capture the essence of a character, being emotional and expressive, being transformative, etc.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 18, 2017 20:38:48 GMT
Charisma
Emotional Range
Versatility
The big three for me.
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Post by sariz on Mar 18, 2017 20:55:11 GMT
given those choices, and considering it's referring to actors/ache tresses, i voted for... 1)Charisma (if i could choose only one option this would have to be it overall) 2)Being great on playing different emotions (always a great thing to have. i think Tom Hanks is one of the best at conveying emotion) 3)Versatility (but i imagine those with charisma and are good at projecting emotion tend to automatically have this choice) i would say that especially plays to actors but when it comes to actresses, since i am a male, attractiveness is a factor but even with that said general screen presence(which is probably closest to charisma on that chart and maybe some warmth etc) is always one of the biggest factors. but i guess it's more about warmth etc that actresses should project coming from my male perspective as some actresses presence are just too dry for my tastes which generally makes it harder to care about them on screen in general. so while attractiveness makes me a bit biased when it comes to who i like with actresses (not always, but mostly) i would assume the reverse is true with females in that they find actors attractive and that will sway their opinions on who they like to some degree also. but since i am a guy, attractiveness is not a factor when it comes to guys as it's just their general presence etc that helps sell them, that and some actors just tend to have a solid rep of appearing in good movies which i think is where your ultimately made or broke in the long term in whether most people will remember you or not is whether you land in movies people remember as the decades pass. just some thoughts as i am sure you could probably come up with a bunch of other things to say if one wanted to put a ton of time into a subject like this. p.s. i am going to assume Charisma will be either the most selected choice or close to it given without that you can't really command a screen in leading roles in different movies in general and it's the thing i think that separates the major names everyone knows from everyone else. that whole 'being a transformer' can be nice occasionally but typically a big name star has to have strong charisma and is more important than transformation as i think those who do the transformation stuff well tend to be more limited in what kinds of movies they can pull off well etc. like will probably be better at solid supporting roles than leading roles in general. i am sure people can come up with all kinds of different ways to see this general subject. NOTE: if the subject was just about actresses then since i am a male i would have likely voted for... Charisma/Versatility/Being Attractive. because from what i noticed those who tend to 'transform' (Cate Blanchett/Meryl Streep etc to name good examples for me) tend to lack charisma/general likability/presence etc from my point of view and their overall presence is too dry for my tastes. but since most movies i like tend to be mostly male dominated then i based my choices that i voted for around that which removed the whole attractiveness thing since that won't be a factor for me because i am a male. Yeah, like i basically already said in my general post, i am sure us males are biased a bit in what actresses we like because of that and the same goes for the females in what actors they like. but when watching those of the same sex as oneself, attractiveness is a non-issue(at least for the vast majority of people). as far as general voices... this is not really much of a issue here as long as one does not have a unappealing voice which the vast majority are fine here. but in terms of someones voice standing out in a positive way... it happens but it's typically a non-issue for me in that some peoples voices are a bit more appealing than others but when it comes to females, since females are attractive for me, certain accents can help make them a bit more attractive etc like Teresa Palmer for example as i like hearing her talk with her Australian accent which further adds to her hotness (she's one of the most attractive actresses for me in general) so with that said... given what you said, it appears we are basically on the same page even though, like i was saying, a unappealing voice is typically not a issue for me since it's no where near common(probably more on the semi-rare side of things) that i am watching a movie and find someone who's voice that stands out to me in a negative way. but just off the top of my head... there are certain British accents i find a bit annoying/unappealing. hell, even sticking within my own nationality(American) there are some that can be unappealing here and there but some of them are not in movies/shows. but like i say it's typically not much of a issue as i imagine your typical British person (or just people in general) does not fall into that category and is no big deal. p.s. good topic  side note: why is that spoiler text there as i accidentally clicked that twice even though i was not actually spoiler texting anything and it's apparently stuck in this reply even though when i edit the post to remove it, it appears nothing is there to remove. Well by attractivness im not making it as a synonymous for good looks. Its just that you find them attractive for the personality they project and there is a something special that attracts you to that person. about conveying emotions and versatility being the same thing mm i disagree, Tom Hanks is actually that example he is good at conveying emotions but i think is not versatile. The roles he plays are all pretty similar : the nice average guy everyone wants to friends with. But i guess everyone puts charisma at first., now i forgot to add it on my poll another trait ive noticed is very important to almost every movie goer is a good filmography. You cant imagine how many times ive heard X or Y is a very good actor because he makes a lot of great movies or many movies i like. This is mostly for the average joe than cinephiles but its a constant argument particularly from my friends, actually again Tom Hanks is not one of my big favorites but every time i tell my girls his voice bores me and just don't find him engaging their first argument against me is But he has a lot of great movies. And i don't deny that but he just doesn't hold my attention
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Post by pippinmaniac on Mar 18, 2017 20:57:04 GMT
The voice is number one, for me. Looks fade, but if you take care of your voice you can have a long career, even if it's only doing voice work. You could even do radio dramas without having to spend time in makeup and hair!
Being able to play different emotions well is also important to me. You can see emotions in the actors' eyes. I always look in a person's eyes if I want to see their sincerity.
Charisma makes an actor a star. It's that certain something that is hard to put in words, but you know it when you see it, or the lack of it.
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Post by gadolinium on Mar 18, 2017 21:16:31 GMT
Charisma.
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Post by femalefan on Mar 18, 2017 21:29:55 GMT
I picked Versatility Charisma Being great on playing different emotions
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Mar 19, 2017 1:16:20 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 19, 2017 4:04:00 GMT
sarizAhh, i see. basically i mistaken it for attractive in the sense you find someone sexually attractive basically (but likability, which i mention later in this sentence, tends to play a factor here to for me) where as your just using it sorta like this "person A has a attractive presence on screen" which i would attribute to some form of likability on screen as maybe it's just me but when i see the word attractive i tend to affiliate it with more of a sexual way and the like not in terms of a general screen presence etc being appealing to you. but i understand you now  i mostly agree with your assessment of Hanks but i think he does go outside of that a little here and there in say Road to Perdition (within my Top 10 movies in general). but even with this said... i still basically agree with you as it's kinda difficult for him not to give off that 'the nice average guy everyone wants to be friends with' vibe as that's just his natural presence on screen. but i guess why i said what i said about the conveying emotions/versatile thing is people like Hanks have been in a decent enough range of movies (but come to think of it couldn't you apply this to Tom Cruise also? ; different presence from Hanks but he's mostly similar enough from movie to movie in his presence like Hanks is in his presence?). so i think it's more in this regard. but even your counter to Hanks (saying he's not versatile etc), ain't that starting to get somewhat into the whole Daniel Day-Lewis territory in that more 'being a transformer' type of category? ; because i think once someone alters from how they generally come across to people more naturally that basically goes into that 'being a transformer' category, right? Yeah, that's what i always been preaching for a long time now is having the general screen presence/charisma paired with landing in quality movies. that's at the core of what makes or breaks people in the long term at the end of the day. but with that said... i could sorta understand how someone who's "more into movies" (cinephile etc) could chalk up some actors, who some might not consider that good of a actor, just happens to get a bit lucky on being in good movies as if you removed their good movies from the equation and just looked at their acting they would probably be ranked lower than others who probably have a similar enough overall presence, or even better, but just don't have the volume of quality movies as the actor who does have the quality filmography. but like you basically said... landing in quality movies is key as i imagine there are some actors/actresses out there who are fairly decent but just never hung around long and disappeared off the radar due to lack of landing in movies people pay attention to. p.s. in terms of filmography Tom Cruise is unmatched for me (and i can't be the only person out there who feels that way when looking at his overall filmography) especially given he's got the highest volume of movies i score a 7 or higher from any actor out there @ 13 movies as the next closest would be lucky to have about half of that figure off the top of my head. as for females... i am not aware of any actress who's got a better overall set of Top 5 movies than Vera Farmiga. but i realize this is kinda more of a personal thing as it's not like she's Cruise level on the female side of things (i.e. she does not have that more mass appeal etc) but then again, and maybe it's just me but, i can't really think of any big name females with the masses who have a solid rep of landing in good movies people tend to remember as males seem to be much more established here from what i can tell. Yeah, i think no matter how many good movies someone has been in and their general charisma etc is considered solid by the masses i think there is always going to be some people who don't care for those actors and you just basically said this with Hanks. but i would imagine these people are in the minority as you can generally tell the more huge names from everyone else and the huge stars tend to land in good movies etc. but since people need some way to measure a actors worth in the long run a quality filmography tends to be a big factor as you need to be in movies people remember otherwise you will be mostly/largely forgotten when enough time passes. but since you said you don't really care for Hanks... one person who's basically A-list and probably has enough name movies to his name but i never thought all that much of is... Christian Bale. he's passable for me but his presence does not stick with me like a lot of the other huge stars do. but at he same time, i don't really consider him huge star status like how Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise/Clint Eastwood etc are huge stars as someone more in Bales age bracket that i would say is on Cruise etc level would be Leo Dicaprio. but just for me personally on Bale... he's only got one movie that stands out in my mind which is The Prestige (within my Top 61 movies) which i imagine is not doing him any favors from my point of view. just some thoughts and like i was saying i like this topic 
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Post by nausea on Mar 19, 2017 4:14:17 GMT
he keeps putting his life and career at risk
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Post by sariz on Mar 19, 2017 18:10:20 GMT
sariz Ahh, i see. basically i mistaken it for attractive in the sense you find someone sexually attractive basically (but likability, which i mention later in this sentence, tends to play a factor here to for me) where as your just using it sorta like this "person A has a attractive presence on screen" which i would attribute to some form of likability on screen as maybe it's just me but when i see the word attractive i tend to affiliate it with more of a sexual way and the like not in terms of a general screen presence etc being appealing to you. but i understand you now i mostly agree with your assessment of Hanks but i think he does go outside of that a little here and there in say Road to Perdition (within my Top 10 movies in general). but even with this said... i still basically agree with you as it's kinda difficult for him not to give off that 'the nice average guy everyone wants to be friends with' vibe as that's just his natural presence on screen. but i guess why i said what i said about the conveying emotions/versatile thing is people like Hanks have been in a decent enough range of movies (but come to think of it couldn't you apply this to Tom Cruise also? ; different presence from Hanks but he's mostly similar enough from movie to movie in his presence like Hanks is in his presence?). so i think it's more in this regard. but even your counter to Hanks (saying he's not versatile etc), ain't that starting to get somewhat into the whole Daniel Day-Lewis territory in that more 'being a transformer' type of category? ; because i think once someone alters from how they generally come across to people more naturally that basically goes into that 'being a transformer' category, right? Yeah, that's what i always been preaching for a long time now is having the general screen presence/charisma paired with landing in quality movies. that's at the core of what makes or breaks people in the long term at the end of the day. but with that said... i could sorta understand how someone who's "more into movies" (cinephile etc) could chalk up some actors, who some might not consider that good of a actor, just happens to get a bit lucky on being in good movies as if you removed their good movies from the equation and just looked at their acting they would probably be ranked lower than others who probably have a similar enough overall presence, or even better, but just don't have the volume of quality movies as the actor who does have the quality filmography. but like you basically said... landing in quality movies is key as i imagine there are some actors/actresses out there who are fairly decent but just never hung around long and disappeared off the radar due to lack of landing in movies people pay attention to. p.s. in terms of filmography Tom Cruise is unmatched for me (and i can't be the only person out there who feels that way when looking at his overall filmography) especially given he's got the highest volume of movies i score a 7 or higher from any actor out there @ 13 movies as the next closest would be lucky to have about half of that figure off the top of my head. as for females... i am not aware of any actress who's got a better overall set of Top 5 movies than Vera Farmiga. but i realize this is kinda more of a personal thing as it's not like she's Cruise level on the female side of things (i.e. she does not have that more mass appeal etc) but then again, and maybe it's just me but, i can't really think of any big name females with the masses who have a solid rep of landing in good movies people tend to remember as males seem to be much more established here from what i can tell. Yeah, i think no matter how many good movies someone has been in and their general charisma etc is considered solid by the masses i think there is always going to be some people who don't care for those actors and you just basically said this with Hanks. but i would imagine these people are in the minority as you can generally tell the more huge names from everyone else and the huge stars tend to land in good movies etc. but since people need some way to measure a actors worth in the long run a quality filmography tends to be a big factor as you need to be in movies people remember otherwise you will be mostly/largely forgotten when enough time passes. but since you said you don't really care for Hanks... one person who's basically A-list and probably has enough name movies to his name but i never thought all that much of is... Christian Bale. he's passable for me but his presence does not stick with me like a lot of the other huge stars do. but at he same time, i don't really consider him huge star status like how Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise/Clint Eastwood etc are huge stars as someone more in Bales age bracket that i would say is on Cruise etc level would be Leo Dicaprio. but just for me personally on Bale... he's only got one movie that stands out in my mind which is The Prestige (within my Top 61 movies) which i imagine is not doing him any favors from my point of view. just some thoughts and like i was saying i like this topic Well thing with Attractivness ir also has a lot to do with Charisma, Robert Downey Jr and Hugh Laurie are not brad Pitt when it comes to looks but there charisma is so big and they are so captivating that i find them very attractive. Or some times you find an actor/actress attractive because of a specific role they played. i probably wouldn't have find Hugh that attractive if it wasn't for House.he is so confident and cool also loved his sense of humor. now on actors vs Actresses filmgraphoes i think Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock do have pretty recognizable filmographies they do have a lot of movies well known by everyone. I think these two are the biggest film stars right now. with Bale i do like him very much i think he is not a big star because he doesn't want to be but he has the X factor to be one, its just that he is more interested in the art though once ina while he does a little of commmercial films. He became Batman that's pretty big.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 26, 2017 10:53:23 GMT
Charisma is the top criteria for me. If they don't have a strong presence in movies then I won't notice the actor at all let alone become a fan. The next is definitely versatility, that's what makes an actor and his films so interesting. For transformers, they are often a surprise to watch and a rare gem in movies. Attractiveness - whether be looks or personality - subtly plays a huge factor 
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