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Post by Aj_June on Oct 19, 2018 14:32:46 GMT
I told my GF once that I see DT as the "Luke Skywalker" of the series, and I am a bit old fashioned in my storytelling preferences, so I would like to see her "win" ( I realize she probably won't ) My GF likes Arya ( a lot - I don't, lol ) so I guess she is a good candidate to "survive" GF is also thinking Arya might "win" in the end ( as of now I am thinking it will be Sansa & Gendry )  I can say that your GF is an awesome person! may her wishes come true. |
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Post by _ on Oct 19, 2018 18:29:44 GMT
I told my GF once that I see DT as the "Luke Skywalker" of the series, and I am a bit old fashioned in my storytelling preferences, so I would like to see her "win" ( I realize she probably won't ) My GF likes Arya ( a lot - I don't, lol ) so I guess she is a good candidate to "survive" GF is also thinking Arya might "win" in the end ( as of now I am thinking it will be Sansa & Gendry ) I can say that your GF is an awesome person! may her wishes come true. Ha! Thanks! I will tell her! |
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 19, 2018 23:01:55 GMT
1. At end of the show who would you prefer to see retain the power? 2. If any character was sure to die then who would be that character that you would definitely like to see get a special/memorable/heroic death? 3. Please name a character that you would like to make it alive (not necessarily on Iron throne)? Could even be a minor character such as Meera Reed. Diplomatic answers are also welcome in case you guys find my questions childish/simple. 1. None of them honestly. They've all bloodied Westeros for a silly throne. Ridiculous. Prior to the Targaryen's coming with their dragons, Westeros was split-up into seven kingdoms with individual rulers. I believe there was more balance of power at that time for there were others who could hold a ruler accountable vs. one person who holds supreme authority. 2. Jaime Lannister. I would like for him to get some recognition for once. He saved Westeros from the Mad King and no one shows the slightest gratitude for it. Robert and Ned never showed him anything but disdain. Some viewers may say Jaime deserves punishment for pushing Bran out the window and crippling the poor boy. However, Jaime already got crippled in his own way when his hand was chopped off. He also lost all his children (two of three he adored) and his parents. It's time for something good to happen to him. 3. It would be funny if little sickly Robin Arryn is the only one left standing in the end.  |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 20, 2018 3:04:57 GMT
1. None of them honestly. They've all bloodied Westeros for a silly throne. Ridiculous. Prior to the Targaryen's coming with their dragons, Westeros was split-up into seven kingdoms with individual rulers. I believe there was more balance of power at that time for there were others who could hold a ruler accountable vs. one person who holds supreme authority. Not the case. Before Aegon's conquest, rule was the same only in a fragmented way. Neighbouring kings did not "hold each other accountable", they merely invaded each other whenever they felt they could win. The Targaryen conquest put an end to this and opened the alternative on inner struggle. War between neighbours was replaced with wars of succession. The picture of "happily independent" entities appeals to naive "liberal" fools the same way that of a "happily unified" whole appeals to naive fearful children. None of them addresses the actual issue of the regulation of power nor its scope. Scope here doesn't refer to a geographical area but to what may be subjected to granted power. That picture of fragmentation receding towards unification is a constant in history. The Heptarchy of ancient Britain allegedly unified in the defence against Danes is one example. Or maybe it just died as the Danes killed one king after the other. Big fish eats smaller fish… |
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Post by Seto on Oct 20, 2018 16:40:19 GMT
_ , jonsa , Spooky Ghost Ackbar , CoolJGS☺ , Leo of Red Keep , Seto , Nightman , shinnickneth I call the mighty Ackbars and the mighty Leo and the charming jonsa and our royal members including Smithjgs, Seto, Nightman and shinnickneth to answer my this set of questions. 1. At end of the show who would you prefer to see retain the power? 2. If any character was sure to die then who would be that character that you would definitely like to see get a special/memorable/heroic death? 3. Please name a character that you would like to make it alive (not necessarily on Iron throne)? Could even be a minor character such as Meera Reed. Diplomatic answers are also welcome in case you guys find my questions childish/simple. 1. If by that you mean, who do I want to see sitting the Iron Throne, then I guess Daenerys is my answer. The show as been building her up from the very beginning, a subversion at this point will feel like a cop out. 2. The hope of seeing Cersei perish in as brutal circumstances as possible is one of the main reasons I'll even watch season 8. 3. I'm still team Stark, so I just hope all the remaining Stark siblings (including Jon Snow) make it out alive. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 20, 2018 17:05:49 GMT
1. If by that you mean, who do I want to see sitting the Iron Throne, then I guess Daenerys is my answer. The show as been building her up from the very beginning, a subversion at this point will feel like a cop out. 2. The hope of seeing Cersei perish in as brutal circumstances as possible is one of the main reasons I'll even watch season 8. Daenerys' failure and fall have been built up for a long time, starting with the crucifixion of the Meereenese masters. You can trust the dumbest part of the audience not to see it. It seems they are also the part who will take pleasure in a portrayal of brutality on people they dislike. Game Of Thrones as an incomparable way of shining the crudest light on human scum. |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 20, 2018 18:24:11 GMT
_ , jonsa , Spooky Ghost Ackbar , CoolJGS☺ , Leo of Red Keep , Seto , Nightman , shinnickneth I call the mighty Ackbars and the mighty Leo and the charming jonsa and our royal members including Smithjgs, Seto, Nightman and shinnickneth to answer my this set of questions. 1. At end of the show who would you prefer to see retain the power? 2. If any character was sure to die then who would be that character that you would definitely like to see get a special/memorable/heroic death? 3. Please name a character that you would like to make it alive (not necessarily on Iron throne)? Could even be a minor character such as Meera Reed. Diplomatic answers are also welcome in case you guys find my questions childish/simple. 1. If by that you mean, who do I want to see sitting the Iron Throne, then I guess Daenerys is my answer. The show as been building her up from the very beginning, a subversion at this point will feel like a cop out. 2. The hope of seeing Cersei perish in as brutal circumstances as possible is one of the main reasons I'll even watch season 8. 3. I'm still team Stark, so I just hope all the remaining Stark siblings (including Jon Snow) make it out alive. I like you no.2. That will give me a great peace of mind. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 20, 2018 19:47:03 GMT
Not the case. Before Aegon's conquest, rule was the same only in a fragmented way. Neighbouring kings did not "hold each other accountable", they merely invaded each other whenever they felt they could win. The Targaryen conquest put an end to this and opened the alternative on inner struggle. War between neighbours was replaced with wars of succession. The picture of "happily independent" entities appeals to naive "liberal" fools the same way that of a "happily unified" whole appeals to naive fearful children. None of them addresses the actual issue of the regulation of power nor its scope. Scope here doesn't refer to a geographical area but to what may be subjected to granted power. That picture of fragmentation receding towards unification is a constant in history. The Heptarchy of ancient Britain allegedly unified in the defence against Danes is one example. Or maybe it just died as the Danes killed one king after the other. Big fish eats smaller fish… Oh, Leo...and your way of winning friends and influencing people.  |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 21, 2018 4:04:41 GMT
Not the case. Before Aegon's conquest, rule was the same only in a fragmented way. Neighbouring kings did not "hold each other accountable", they merely invaded each other whenever they felt they could win. The Targaryen conquest put an end to this and opened the alternative on inner struggle. War between neighbours was replaced with wars of succession. The picture of "happily independent" entities appeals to naive "liberal" fools the same way that of a "happily unified" whole appeals to naive fearful children. None of them addresses the actual issue of the regulation of power nor its scope. Scope here doesn't refer to a geographical area but to what may be subjected to granted power. That picture of fragmentation receding towards unification is a constant in history. The Heptarchy of ancient Britain allegedly unified in the defence against Danes is one example. Or maybe it just died as the Danes killed one king after the other. Big fish eats smaller fish… Oh, Leo...and your way of winning friends and influencing people. I'm not looking for friends on the Internet. Truth is what influences the people I care for. The rest is food. |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 21, 2018 11:41:06 GMT
Oh, Leo...and your way of winning friends and influencing people. I'm not looking for friends on the Internet. Truth is what influences the people I care for. The rest is food. You do not need to bring liberals in every topic. Liberalism has nothing to do with people wanting 7 seven kingdom system of past restored again. As a matter of fact it is conservative idea to maintain local culture and not be ruled by outsiders. Socialist soviet union split and adopted capitalist system. Liberals are often charged with intending to conspire for one culture/one currency/one economy and one government.
You have an obsession with liberalism and some other things and you may feel you are representing some truth but truth is subjective. In any case frequently calling people idiots just drives them away and the place sees less conversation.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 21, 2018 12:15:07 GMT
I'm not looking for friends on the Internet. Truth is what influences the people I care for. The rest is food. You do not need to bring liberals in every topic. Liberalism has nothing to do with people wanting 7 seven kingdom system of past restored again. As a matter of fact it is conservative idea to maintain local culture and not be ruled by outsiders. Socialist soviet union split and adopted capitalist system. Liberals are often charged with intending to conspire for one culture/one currency/one economy and one government.
You have an obsession with liberalism and some other things and you may feel you are representing some truth but truth is subjective. In any case frequently calling people idiots just drives them away and the place sees less conversation.
I don't seek conversation with fools. Every idiot I drive away is an improvement to the quality of what remains. The idea of freedom is misused to sell about every political idea on any side of the spectrum. Those who fall for it then like to call or think of themselves as "liberals" in some parts of the world. In others, that term is associated to cold, selfish materialism and in yet others it is used by those who want to secede from either real or perceived constraints. US so-called "liberals" almost rallied around some socialist shithead and the rightmost party in Austria calls itself "liberal" too. The word has no longer any other meaning than fools-bait. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 21, 2018 15:29:15 GMT
I'm not looking for friends on the Internet. Truth is what influences the people I care for. The rest is food. I didn't think otherwise. I was being ironical.  |
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 21, 2018 15:33:25 GMT
You do not need to bring liberals in every topic. Liberalism has nothing to do with people wanting 7 seven kingdom system of past restored again. As a matter of fact it is conservative idea to maintain local culture and not be ruled by outsiders. Socialist soviet union split and adopted capitalist system. Liberals are often charged with intending to conspire for one culture/one currency/one economy and one government.
You have an obsession with liberalism and some other things and you may feel you are representing some truth but truth is subjective. In any case frequently calling people idiots just drives them away and the place sees less conversation.
Yes, people don't want constant hostility and insults. Leo can bring some great perspective about the show, but he can also be extremely negative. It's to the point I just skim over him in a thread sometimes to deal with someone more friendly. |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 21, 2018 15:41:47 GMT
You do not need to bring liberals in every topic. Liberalism has nothing to do with people wanting 7 seven kingdom system of past restored again. As a matter of fact it is conservative idea to maintain local culture and not be ruled by outsiders. Socialist soviet union split and adopted capitalist system. Liberals are often charged with intending to conspire for one culture/one currency/one economy and one government.
You have an obsession with liberalism and some other things and you may feel you are representing some truth but truth is subjective. In any case frequently calling people idiots just drives them away and the place sees less conversation.
Yes, people don't want constant hostility and insults. Leo can bring some great perspective about the show, but he can also be extremely negative. It's to the point I just skim over him in a thread sometimes to deal with someone more friendly. True. Leo often brings a different and valuable point of view that is almost always unique. But being more considerate in posting could make him convey his point more effectively. It's also important to realize that governance and political systems are matters of subjective opinion and often there are no right or wrong perspective.
I like the way you conduct yourself on the board. I sometimes do lose patience but you and Spooky Ghost Ackbar can smile at everything. Seto and Nightman are a bit different in that they do not fall for long exchanges but can sternly point out if they perceive someone is being way off. |
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Post by Nightman on Oct 21, 2018 15:53:12 GMT
The word has no longer any other meaning than fools-bait. In your case, it is to describe anyone who likes a character you dislike.  |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 21, 2018 16:13:20 GMT
The word has no longer any other meaning than fools-bait. In your case, it is to describe anyone who likes a character you dislike. You know I'm more explicit than that in such cases. I don't like using the term because it no longer has a proper meaning and I wouldn't see it in a negative way in its original one. This is why I mostly use it in quotes, in which case it refers to the ignorants who relate it to some Santa Claus promise. |
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Post by Spooky Ghost Ackbar on Oct 21, 2018 17:31:36 GMT
Yes, people don't want constant hostility and insults. Leo can bring some great perspective about the show, but he can also be extremely negative. It's to the point I just skim over him in a thread sometimes to deal with someone more friendly. True. Leo often brings a different and valuable point of view that is almost always unique. But being more considerate in posting could make him convey his point more effectively. It's also important to realize that governance and political systems are matters of subjective opinion and often there are no right or wrong perspective.
I like the way you conduct yourself on the board. I sometimes do lose patience but you and Spooky Ghost Ackbar can smile at everything. Seto and Nightman are a bit different in that they do not fall for long exchanges but can sternly point out if they perceive someone is being way off. It's the key to life, my friend.  |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 21, 2018 17:40:51 GMT
True. Leo often brings a different and valuable point of view that is almost always unique. But being more considerate in posting could make him convey his point more effectively. It's also important to realize that governance and political systems are matters of subjective opinion and often there are no right or wrong perspective.
I like the way you conduct yourself on the board. I sometimes do lose patience but you and Spooky Ghost Ackbar can smile at everything. Seto and Nightman are a bit different in that they do not fall for long exchanges but can sternly point out if they perceive someone is being way off. It's the key to life, my friend. Very true. I take inspiration from you and shinnickneth.  Anytime I engage in a disagreeable conversation with anyone it feels bad afterwards even if it's not my fault. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 22, 2018 6:05:18 GMT
It's the key to life, my friend. Very true. I take inspiration from you and shinnickneth. Anytime I engage in a disagreeable conversation with anyone it feels bad afterwards even if it's not my fault. That's because you don't eat them |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 30, 2018 20:31:18 GMT
Sending SOS to great ackbars @ _ & Spooky Ghost Ackbar to enlighten the atmosphere and the board by talking something about GOT. May be ask questions that you want us to answer! |
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Anytime I engage in a disagreeable conversation with anyone it feels bad afterwards even if it's not my fault.