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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 3:55:56 GMT
however ya gotta amit he's pretty good at winning. Except all the times he has gone bankrupt and all the businesses he has driven into the ground and all the times he has got caught while conning people. But he is good at convincing stupid americans that he is always winning I know it bro.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 4:08:01 GMT
however ya gotta amit he's pretty good at winning. Except all the times he has gone bankrupt and all the businesses he has driven into the ground and all the times he has got caught while conning people. But he is good at convincing stupid americans that he is always winning Any businessman who dabbles in a variety of different venues is going to have setbacks. His bankruptcies are held against him? Plenty of good companies go through a reorganization of the business through bankruptcy proceedings. Sometimes they come back stronger. Sometimes they don't back at all.
He is still a hugely successful man.
The rhetoric from the left is so off the charts insane, I don't take any of it seriously any more.
I've never seen the left like this. I used to be a liberal. I don't know what they are any more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 4:14:09 GMT
Fuck no, he is one of the worst people who have ever lived And how did you come to this rather bizarre extremist conclusion?
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Post by frankcaprica on Jun 23, 2018 4:16:15 GMT
Fuck no, he is one of the worst people who have ever lived And how did you come to this rather bizarre extremist conclusion?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 4:17:59 GMT
And how did you come to this rather bizarre extremist conclusion?
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Answer the question.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jun 23, 2018 4:19:45 GMT
No. He’s a clown.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 23, 2018 4:27:37 GMT
No.
He's a big baby and he has one of the most annoying personalities I have ever seen.
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Post by drystyx on Jun 23, 2018 5:00:41 GMT
My vote is "No". First time I saw him was on a talk show where he spoke to two girls he "fired". The first he fired for not speaking up for herself. The second he fired for speaking up for herself. No, there's no "gray area". It's like the "essay test" where a professor just gives whatever grade he feels godlike to give, and that's the entire reason for essay tests.
I don't "hate" him, though. I think he's terrible for internal policies, terrible for human rights against big business, terrible for the environment.
He's what we need for foreign affairs for four years, though. He won't start any "war". He puts bullies in their place. It's his only good point.
At this point, I don't want to hear any more about impeachment, and really never did. It sounded like whiny cry babies. Four years of Trump may be what the middle class backers of the Republican party need to realize that the Republicans are not their friends. His best allies right now are the cry babies of the extreme left who rant and rave over inconsequential things, because they only serve to draw attention away from his real evil, the evil of trying to destroy health care for the poor, of keeping the poor in poverty, robbing the poor to give to the rich.
Those people who felt Trump was like them, they thought so because the extremists of the left harassed and falsely accused them of crimes, so they naturally assumed that they also falsely accused Trump. Trump owes all his success to the wacko left extremists.
After four years, enough common people will realize Trump isn't one of them. Of course this won't happen unless the extreme left and CNN stop worrying about Stormy Daniels, stop accusing Christians of being wicked, and stop accusing middle America of being stupid.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 23, 2018 5:06:50 GMT
Im trying to. Still I like him more than Hillary.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 23, 2018 5:14:42 GMT
I don't see him as presidential material. He is, however, endlessly entertaining in that you never can predict what he's going to do/tweet next.
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Post by ravi02 on Jun 23, 2018 17:13:44 GMT
Any businessman who dabbles in a variety of different venues is going to have setbacks. His bankruptcies are held against him? Plenty of good companies go through a reorganization of the business through bankruptcy proceedings. Sometimes they come back stronger. Sometimes they don't back at all.
The rhetoric from the left is so off the charts insane, I don't take any of it seriously any more. There's also the issues of him preventing black families from living in his buildings early in his career and his entire Trump University and charity being a scam....
Disliking him has nothing to do "rhetoric from the left"; it's more to do with common sense from following current events. He's a tabloid buffoon treating the presidency like a kiddie playground while surrounding himself with equally unqualified (and corrupt) people that are making poor decisions with consequences for future generations.
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Post by ravi02 on Jun 23, 2018 17:17:34 GMT
Still I like him more than Hillary. Trump was caught bragging about sexually assaulting women on tape, has a cavalcade of corrupt officials all over his administration (some of whom have ties to white supremacy), is currently embroiled in a scandal with Russia, called Neo-Nazis fine people and promotes ignorance of anyone who is non-white, but.....her emails, right?
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Post by petrolino on Jun 23, 2018 17:21:31 GMT
No. Thought he was an arrogant bully and a conceited jerk back in the '80s and nothing's changed my mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 17:29:21 GMT
Any businessman who dabbles in a variety of different venues is going to have setbacks. His bankruptcies are held against him? Plenty of good companies go through a reorganization of the business through bankruptcy proceedings. Sometimes they come back stronger. Sometimes they don't back at all.
The rhetoric from the left is so off the charts insane, I don't take any of it seriously any more. There's also the issues of him preventing black families from living in his buildings early in his career and his entire Trump University and charity being a scam....
Disliking him has nothing to do "rhetoric from the left"; it's more to do with common sense from following current events. He's a tabloid buffoon treating the presidency like a kiddie playground while surrounding himself with equally unqualified (and corrupt) people that are making poor decisions with consequences for future generations.
So, let's say that is true, then so what does that have to do with what he is doing today? Nothing. Excuses. That's all it is.
Honestly, once I found out about Obama's past, I was much more concerned about him. And justifiably so, as it turned out. That man should never have been elected to any public office. God knows how much damage he did, most of which we may not find out for decades.
But everything about the left IS rhetoric. Nazis? Concentration camps? White supremacists? Fascists? You are going to sit there and tell me it has nothing to do with the rhetoric of the left?
What about that LIE on the cover of Time Magazine? Did liberals throw a fit over Obama's immigration policies? No.
I am a much stronger advocate of Trump today for two reasons. First, because he is doing a good job, despite all the negative media coverage, and the lies. Second, because liberals have become crazy. Libeals are insane.
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Post by ravi02 on Jun 23, 2018 17:38:20 GMT
Obama at least had a background in public service and whatever issues he may have had as a president, at least he could converse like a grown adult man and didn't throw tantrums on Twitter when things didn't go his way. Even George W. Bush (for his MANY faults) was a more capable leader than the Orange Taint.
Obama's policies weren't ANYTHING like Trump's either. Trump's methods are pretty much like Nazi Germany with no solution in sight and is just creating a bigger mess of things.
You keep rambling on about how "liberals are crazy", but fail to properly address any of the points I made. Trump's sketchy history is right there on numerous news sites to research into and considering his low approval rating and the way our foreign allies view our current administration, I would say there's a reason why many view Trump as a joke.
But yeah, dismiss it all as "Fake News" and "leftist rambling" if that makes you happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 17:40:50 GMT
Obama at least had a background in public service and whatever issues he may have had as a president, at least he could converse like a grown adult man and didn't throw tantrums on Twitter when things didn't go his way. Even George W. Bush (for his MANY faults) was a more capable leader than the Orange Taint.
You keep rambling on about how "liberals are crazy", but fail to properly address any of the points I made. Trump's sketchy history is right there on numerous news sites to research into and considering his low approval rating and the way our foreign allies view our current administration, I would say there's a reason why many view Trump as a joke.
But yeah, dismiss it all as "Fake News" and "leftist rambling" if that makes you happy.
Obama was a thespian. He was a master BS artist. That's about all he ever was.
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Post by ravi02 on Jun 23, 2018 17:42:49 GMT
Yet your beloved Orange Emperor is a former reality host and tabloid celebrity who shits in a toilet made of gold. You Trumpettes are adorable in a crazy way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 17:58:30 GMT
Yet your beloved Orange Emperor is a former reality host and tabloid celebrity who shits in a toilet made of gold. Your point? He is a successful businessman and that alone makes him more qualified than Obama.
Obama didn't even work with his own party to get much of anything done. He didn't know how. Experience in making deals matters.
Obama could stand in front of the world and read off his teleprompter and sound presidential.
But his actions were rarely presidential.
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Post by ravi02 on Jun 23, 2018 18:04:27 GMT
But his actions were rarely presidential.
Yet you find Trump to be? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 18:17:39 GMT
But his actions were rarely presidential.
Yet you find Trump to be? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL More so than Obama? Yes. Trump does not sound it, that's for sure. We have never seen anyone quite like him. He doesn't really look it. But his actions are those consistent with the duties of president.
Notice the difference between how Obama handled the Iran deal and how Trump is handling NK.
Obama did not even bother trying to construct a binding treaty with the Senate.
Trump has said repeatedly he wants to have the Senate approve a treat with NK so he could ratify it.
Who bragged about bypassing the legislative bodies of Congress? Obama. That's presidential? That's the opposite of presidential.
Obama seemed oblivious to the enumerated laws of the Constitution. Or, maybe worse, he knew them but ignored them.
And Trump recognizes that we need a wall. I've been to the border several times and we need that wall. More than anything, I finally voted for Trump because of his correct and strong stance on illegals.
I gave Trump the same chance I gave Obama. Obama did just about everything wrong. Trump has done just about everything right.
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