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Post by fartyfartsalot on Jul 21, 2018 17:20:53 GMT
I'm just going to make a comment and am not going to get into an argument. I'm a Democrat who has chosen to vote for Romney and Trump. Unless the Dems can put up a decent candidate, I will look at other options. There are many reasons I dislike Hilary now (loved her once upon a time), and I was absolutely thrilled she did not win. Did not like Obama ever. I like Trump. I do not find any of his past offensive to me as a woman. However, I did find the "women should support women" type of support for Hilary very offensive. That type of thinking is gender-biased bs. Benghazi was the last straw for me -- I cannot even wrap my head around how anyone could support her after that. Common shtick for Trump supporters & Russian trolls. "I'm a Democrat but I support these far-right ideologies & voted for this conservative candidate that no real dem would be caught dead voting for... blah blah blah."
Nice try
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Post by CookiesNCream on Jul 21, 2018 20:26:56 GMT
Fuck no.
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Post by jonesjxd on Jul 30, 2018 9:32:39 GMT
No, not only is he an ignorant, philandering, amoral, manipulative, fear mongering authoritarian who probably colluded with Russia-- he's also very bad at his job.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 30, 2018 11:58:45 GMT
No, not only is he an ignorant, philandering, amoral, manipulative, fear mongering authoritarian who probably colluded with Russia-- he's also very bad at his job. I would love to see someone good at the job then since Trump is doing a far better job than our last four Presidents.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Jul 30, 2018 13:52:22 GMT
I'm not in either of the camps - the ones who think he's god, and the others who think he's the devil.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jul 30, 2018 13:56:35 GMT
Not really. He's an egomaniac and I think he's a loose cannon.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jul 30, 2018 15:43:57 GMT
The thing about Trump that bothers me (and I can't remember if I've posted on this thread yet) is that he stands for nothing, unless it's in his own self interest. He really doesn't care about half the shit he signs into law, he's just bowing to what the people who kiss up to him want. That's been the most disturbing part of this presidency; watching the GOP go bezerk without any checks and balances whatsoever. A lot of damaging shit is happening right now that will take generations to untangle.
If the Democrats cozied up to him and started fluffing his ego, he'd start making their dreams come true instead. All he cares about is being the center of attention and being on the tips of everyone's tongue. He is nothing if people aren't talking about and praising him.
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Post by jonesjxd on Jul 31, 2018 10:01:44 GMT
No, not only is he an ignorant, philandering, amoral, manipulative, fear mongering authoritarian who probably colluded with Russia-- he's also very bad at his job. I would love to see someone good at the job then since Trump is doing a far better job than our last four Presidents. When the Kool-Aid starts smelling like bitter almonds, please dump it out.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 31, 2018 12:08:08 GMT
I would love to see someone good at the job then since Trump is doing a far better job than our last four Presidents. When the Kool-Aid starts smelling like bitter almonds, please dump it out. Responses like these are all Trump haters have. Facts are not on their side. Just last week the GDP was raised 4.1% and Korean War bodies were released and brought home. The Democrats banned straws. This is the difference in platforms.
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Post by jonesjxd on Aug 1, 2018 10:25:06 GMT
When the Kool-Aid starts smelling like bitter almonds, please dump it out. Responses like these are all Trump haters have. Facts are not on their side. Just last week the GDP was raised 4.1% and Korean War bodies were released and brought home. The Democrats banned straws. This is the difference in platforms. Democrats banned straws?
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 1, 2018 11:55:49 GMT
Responses like these are all Trump haters have. Facts are not on their side. Just last week the GDP was raised 4.1% and Korean War bodies were released and brought home. The Democrats banned straws. This is the difference in platforms. Democrats banned straws? In California at least. What is the Democrats platform these days beside they hate Trump? I am serious. They stand for nothing these days.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 1, 2018 12:18:51 GMT
In California at least. What is the Democrats platform these days beside they hate Trump? I am serious. They stand for nothing these days. You're not entirely wrong, that's partly why I think Trump will be reelected. I'm curious to see who will emerge as a fresh voice from the left this coming election cycle. Whoever it is had better come up with an actual message to sell, because "I'm not Trump," didn't get Hillary very far.
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Post by fartyfartsalot on Aug 1, 2018 14:38:37 GMT
Would Bernie Sanders have beaten Trump if he got the nomination?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 14:54:04 GMT
In California at least. What is the Democrats platform these days beside they hate Trump? I am serious. They stand for nothing these days. No, they also stand for Medicare for all, free college, college debt forgiveness, much higher taxes, no borders, the Spark of Divinity in MS-13, rioting, suppressing free speech, socialism, stopping 'white privilege' and are slowly but surely accepting pedophilia as a viable alternative lifestyle.
See? Democrats do stand for things.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 1, 2018 16:50:54 GMT
Would Bernie Sanders have beaten Trump if he got the nomination? I think he would have and pretty handedly. Despite how much everyone seems to hate Trump, we have to all admit that Bernie would have been terrible for this country.
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Post by fartyfartsalot on Aug 1, 2018 19:45:01 GMT
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Post by fartyfartsalot on Aug 1, 2018 19:48:04 GMT
Would Bernie Sanders have beaten Trump if he got the nomination? I think he would have and pretty handedly. Despite how much everyone seems to hate Trump, we have to all admit that Bernie would have been terrible for this country. Realistically.. I think it would have been 4 years of Obama. I think any idiot would realize that free college, healthcare and $15 minimum wage is never going to happen. I don't think even an all Democratic house would approve those. It's just ridiculously expensive.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 1, 2018 20:25:10 GMT
Anyone, answer me this honestly, no BS, real question? What is there to like about Trump?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 1, 2018 20:32:25 GMT
Except all the times he has gone bankrupt and all the businesses he has driven into the ground and all the times he has got caught while conning people. But he is good at convincing stupid americans that he is always winning Any businessman who dabbles in a variety of different venues is going to have setbacks. His bankruptcies are held against him? Plenty of good companies go through a reorganization of the business through bankruptcy proceedings. Sometimes they come back stronger. Sometimes they don't back at all.
He is still a hugely successful man.
The rhetoric from the left is so off the charts insane, I don't take any of it seriously any more.
I've never seen the left like this. I used to be a liberal. I don't know what they are any more.
What I find interesting about the bolded/underlined thought process is how you don't see the reverse. Because that's ALL I heard when Obama was President. It was disgusting some of what I heard from conservatives when Obama was president. But you choose not to see that, huh?
And the hypocrisy coming from the right now is what's off the charts. Remember "lock her up"? And how many conservatives now are in trouble with the law. But none of ya'll are chanting "lock THEM up!"
When one sees things as only one sided one has drunk a little too deeply of the "Kool-Aid". Lay off the Kool-Aid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 22:44:00 GMT
Any businessman who dabbles in a variety of different venues is going to have setbacks. His bankruptcies are held against him? Plenty of good companies go through a reorganization of the business through bankruptcy proceedings. Sometimes they come back stronger. Sometimes they don't back at all.
He is still a hugely successful man.
The rhetoric from the left is so off the charts insane, I don't take any of it seriously any more.
I've never seen the left like this. I used to be a liberal. I don't know what they are any more.
What I find interesting about the bolded/underlined thought process is how you don't see the reverse. Because that's ALL I heard when Obama was President. It was disgusting some of what I heard from conservatives when Obama was president. But you choose not to see that, huh?
And the hypocrisy coming from the right now is what's off the charts. Remember "lock her up"? And how many conservatives now are in trouble with the law. But none of ya'll are chanting "lock THEM up!"
When one sees things as only one sided one has drunk a little too deeply of the "Kool-Aid". Lay off the Kool-Aid.
Well, first of all, Obama pretty much owned the media. Except FNC. The other outlets protected Obama, deified him. So I find that a false comparison. I mean Anita Dunn used to brag about how they controlled the media, gave them the questions to ask so they would already be fully prepared.
I mean a rodeo clown dressed up as Obama (something they do historically for ALL presidents) and he was fired. I doubt we will ever see another president treated as well as Obama. It was stunning to behold. He would lie more than any president. And BIG lies. Not little ones. Not about crowd sizes. About things that affect our lives, our pocket books, our healthcare, our security.
You may even believe Obama was treated as bad as Trump but that is ludicrous.
I remember 'Lock her up!' Because she should be in prison right now. I would be in prison if I had so egregiously mishandled classified data. Hell, even having a private server would have had me in prison. She was Sec of State. She was held to a lower standard than the lowest level intern at State. She should have been held to the highest.
Hillary Rodham Clinton should be in prison right now. No doubt at all. And to point to others that should be in prison as some kind of defense, as some kind of hypocrisy, does not diminish her crimes. God only knows how many skeletons are in her closet. That woman is as thoroughly despicable as they come.
I have no rose-colored glasses when it comes to Trump. But compared to Obama and Hillary, at least so far, he is a saint.
Don't get get me started on Benghazi!
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