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Post by gomezaddams666 on Mar 24, 2017 20:03:51 GMT
He turned it down in favor of shooting Suicide Squad
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 21:46:00 GMT
He turned down the ID4 sequel because they wouldn'tput Jaden in it. At least, that's what was said. No, he was not included in the movie because he demanded too much money and they wrote him out of the story. Well, I could very well be wrong, except, if it's on the internet must be true, right? I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy career wise, he's a great actor. The thing is, he forgets where he came from. He was The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire before ID4. Of course, he could have just thought the script sucked, and that was his was of bowing out without too many hurt feelings. I think it would have been better if he was in it, though.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 25, 2017 16:23:39 GMT
No, he was not included in the movie because he demanded too much money and they wrote him out of the story. Well, I could very well be wrong, except, if it's on the internet must be true, right? I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy career wise, he's a great actor. The thing is, he forgets where he came from. He was The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire before ID4. Of course, he could have just thought the script sucked, and that was his was of bowing out without too many hurt feelings. I think it would have been better if he was in it, though. Sorry, I didn't mean that as pissy as it sounded. I do agree with you. I don't know why he thinks he is worth a ridiculous figure like $50 mil. He hasn't had a good/successful stuff in years and is sort of looked at negatively now. Whenever his name is announced, people roll their eyes. Shame of it is I do think he's talented.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 29, 2017 4:32:51 GMT
No, he was not included in the movie because he demanded too much money and they wrote him out of the story. Well, I could very well be wrong, except, if it's on the internet must be true, right? I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy career wise, he's a great actor. The thing is, he forgets where he came from. He was The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire before ID4. Of course, he could have just thought the script sucked, and that was his was of bowing out without too many hurt feelings. I think it would have been better if he was in it, though. I don't know, I think people overemphasize the effect ID4 had on his career. Not saying it didn't have one, but he had Bad Boys and he'd already shot most of Men in Black before ID4 even came out. I think he was on his way to being a movie star with or without it.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Mar 30, 2017 4:11:45 GMT
Well, I could very well be wrong, except, if it's on the internet must be true, right? I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy career wise, he's a great actor. The thing is, he forgets where he came from. He was The Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire before ID4. Of course, he could have just thought the script sucked, and that was his was of bowing out without too many hurt feelings. I think it would have been better if he was in it, though. I don't know, I think people overemphasize the effect ID4 had on his career. Not saying it didn't have one, but he had Bad Boys and he'd already shot most of Men in Black before ID4 even came out. I think he was on his way to being a movie star with or without it. I would argue that BOTH MIB and ID4 made him a movie star, and that's all he is, a movie star. But I beg to differ, I do not see him as a good actor. In fan, I don'pt see him as an actor at all. He plays Will Smith as a cowboy, Will Smith as Ali, Will Smith as Deadshot... you get the idea... which is why he is not taken seriously anymore.
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Post by troliusmaximus on Mar 30, 2017 14:46:00 GMT
As much as I like The Matrix -- all three films (see here: The Matrix Resolutions as to why) -- and the character Morpheus, and the idea of expatiating upon the other characters, the overriding fact is that Michael B. Johnson is a hack YA and not a scintilla of 'Morpheus' (much less, Fishburne) resides in his persona. Said actor was horrible in Creed; and although I've seen him in something else, his nonentity nature precludes me from recalling the film/s. What stripes has this guy got? Why is he already slated as the lead, without even a script writer's pen being put to paper? What is this the agenda behind pushing this particular guy...?? I'm all for building on the Wachowskies' seminal works. However, casting can make or break a film -- case in point: the perpetual grinning mug of Will Smith in place of Reeves as "Neo" ⚠The Matrix: Morpheus Matriculated 👍 The Matrix: Michael B-grade's Johnson 👎
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Post by misstique on Mar 30, 2017 16:27:43 GMT
I don't know, I think people overemphasize the effect ID4 had on his career. Not saying it didn't have one, but he had Bad Boys and he'd already shot most of Men in Black before ID4 even came out. I think he was on his way to being a movie star with or without it. I would argue that BOTH MIB and ID4 made him a movie star, and that's all he is, a movie star. But I beg to differ, I do not see him as a good actor. In fan, I don'pt see him as an actor at all. He plays Will Smith as a cowboy, Will Smith as Ali, Will Smith as Deadshot... you get the idea... which is why he is not taken seriously anymore. I share your opinion 100%. Will only plays Will. I'm still trying to find a movie of his in which he does not scream out a line of dialogue. He usually does this for no apparent reason than to just show what a good actor he is, and a lot of folks buy it.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 30, 2017 17:47:15 GMT
I don't know, I think people overemphasize the effect ID4 had on his career. Not saying it didn't have one, but he had Bad Boys and he'd already shot most of Men in Black before ID4 even came out. I think he was on his way to being a movie star with or without it. I would argue that BOTH MIB and ID4 made him a movie star, and that's all he is, a movie star. But I beg to differ, I do not see him as a good actor. In fan, I don'pt see him as an actor at all. He plays Will Smith as a cowboy, Will Smith as Ali, Will Smith as Deadshot... you get the idea... which is why he is not taken seriously anymore. His characters in Pursuit of Happiness, Ali, and I Am Legend are nothing like the ones in Bad Boys, ID4, Wild Wild West, and MIB. Simply not true. The guy thinks too highly of himself for sure, hence his ridiculous salary demands, but people have lost all objectivity when talking about him. It's far too fashionable to criticize him and sometimes based on stuff that isn't even true. People hear his name and automatically lose interest.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Mar 31, 2017 3:19:56 GMT
I would argue that BOTH MIB and ID4 made him a movie star, and that's all he is, a movie star. But I beg to differ, I do not see him as a good actor. In fan, I don'pt see him as an actor at all. He plays Will Smith as a cowboy, Will Smith as Ali, Will Smith as Deadshot... you get the idea... which is why he is not taken seriously anymore. I share your opinion 100%. Will only plays Will. I'm still trying to find a movie of his in which he does not scream out a line of dialogue. He usually does this for no apparent reason than to just show what a good actor he is, and a lot of folks buy it. He's a caricature of the fresh Prince. And that's all he will ever be.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Mar 31, 2017 3:23:17 GMT
I would argue that BOTH MIB and ID4 made him a movie star, and that's all he is, a movie star. But I beg to differ, I do not see him as a good actor. In fan, I don'pt see him as an actor at all. He plays Will Smith as a cowboy, Will Smith as Ali, Will Smith as Deadshot... you get the idea... which is why he is not taken seriously anymore. His characters in Pursuit of Happiness, Ali, and I Am Legend are nothing like the ones in Bad Boys, ID4, Wild Wild West, and MIB. Simply not true. The guy thinks too highly of himself for sure, hence his ridiculous salary demands, but people have lost all objectivity when talking about him. It's far too fashionable to criticize him and sometimes based on stuff that isn't even true. People hear his name and automatically lose interest. I respectfully but incredibly disagree. I Am Legend for example is the worst of the three adaptation of the novel so far, and tho the Sci-Fi channel quality of the CGI is at least in part to blame, Smith plays himself. And Ali? Really? Mohammed Ali was a legend but his public persona was a freaking cartoon and Smith couldn't even emulate that. He either plays serious Will or Fresh Prince, that is the extent of his range as an actor.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 31, 2017 13:33:43 GMT
His characters in Pursuit of Happiness, Ali, and I Am Legend are nothing like the ones in Bad Boys, ID4, Wild Wild West, and MIB. Simply not true. The guy thinks too highly of himself for sure, hence his ridiculous salary demands, but people have lost all objectivity when talking about him. It's far too fashionable to criticize him and sometimes based on stuff that isn't even true. People hear his name and automatically lose interest. I respectfully but incredibly disagree. I Am Legend for example is the worst of the three adaptation of the novel so far, and tho the Sci-Fi channel quality of the CGI is at least in part to blame, Smith plays himself. And Ali? Really? Mohammed Ali was a legend but his public persona was a freaking cartoon and Smith couldn't even emulate that. He either plays serious Will or Fresh Prince, that is the extent of his range as an actor. Different topic. We are not discussing the accuracy of adaptations. His character in I I Am Legend is absolutely nothing like MIB, ID4, or Bad Boys; which I can freely admit are "himself". That is such an untrue statement.
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Post by gomezaddams666 on Apr 1, 2017 0:58:19 GMT
I respectfully but incredibly disagree. I Am Legend for example is the worst of the three adaptation of the novel so far, and tho the Sci-Fi channel quality of the CGI is at least in part to blame, Smith plays himself. And Ali? Really? Mohammed Ali was a legend but his public persona was a freaking cartoon and Smith couldn't even emulate that. He either plays serious Will or Fresh Prince, that is the extent of his range as an actor. Different topic. We are not discussing the accuracy of adaptations. His character in I I Am Legend is absolutely nothing like MIB, ID4, or Bad Boys; which I can freely admit are "himself". That is such an untrue statement. He either plays himself a s a tough guy or as a comedic version of himself. The cringiest of moments in when he is insisting they test his family again. He has a "tell", either a specific voice pitch or a face that he turns to when he has no clue how to properly act out an emotion, which is all the time.
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Post by jaynadiah on Apr 1, 2017 11:45:03 GMT
I just seriously hate prequels... cannot stand them.. I want to see stories progress not what happened before.. a lot of the element of surprise is lost because you know what happens in the future. Prequels suck.
That said the first Matrix is my fave film of all time so i'll still probably watch this haha!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 16, 2017 0:09:13 GMT
I hate prequels. Not interested.
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Post by geezer on Aug 19, 2017 13:33:34 GMT
could will smith play young morpheus since he was in the running to play neo? Cast Smith's gay son Jaden. Mommy and Daddy says he's super talented.
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Post by darkknightofgotham on Aug 19, 2017 19:46:54 GMT
Not really interested in this. The only good Matrix film was the first imo.
The sequels were incredibly boring and forgettable.
Personally, if they're going to continue this franchise I'd rather have a movie about the previous 'Ones' described by the Architect in the second film.
I really don't care about a Morpheus prequel.
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