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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 1:55:09 GMT
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Post by ck100 on Jun 25, 2018 1:56:30 GMT
I think if one exists than so would the other. You can't have good exist without evil.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 1:59:14 GMT
What's YOUR position?
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Post by itsmagic on Jun 25, 2018 4:47:17 GMT
absolutely both exist. good & evil. angels & demons. Jesus, the Son of God who rose from the dead, spoke more
about these things than anyone. He Himself after His baptism was in the wilderness 40 days tempted
by satan. Jesus spoke the truth & proved His words & power to perform indisputable miracles were from the Father in heaven. read john, mark, luke, then matthew. last then revelation. nothing could be more important for you.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit testimony - it is Impossible for God to lie. He came to tell us the truth, show us the Father,
and provide a sacrifice, for all who believe & obey Him, to be able to go to heaven. if you think you're just too busy,
get a red letter edition of a good translation of the new testament & read the words in red. you really want to get this
one decision right by reading the words of God Himself
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 25, 2018 5:40:44 GMT
Both exist ; that's the correct answer. also, there should really be only two choices in the poll with both existing (for believers) or neither existing (for non-believers). but for those believers who think they are going to Heaven almost no matter what they do, might be in for a bad surprise because people like this may commit the sin of presumption (i.e. www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=442714 ) in that they think they can pretty much do whatever they want, short of murder, and still make it to Heaven and you don't have to be a murderer to end up in hell. ill add that sexual sins are most likely what many end up in hell for (given what was said at Fatima by Our Lady) and many fall victim to these and if they don't repent they risk hell for it. basically sexual sin is one of the easiest ways for the common person to potentially be in a state of mortal sin. if one is truly in a state of mortal sin, when they pass from this life, you will end up in hell. basically 'mortal sin'(serious sin) destroys sanctifying grace within ones soul where as 'venial sin'(mild sin) only wounds it. but for those selecting 'neither' might be in for a big surprise (in a negative way) when they check out of this life into the next...
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Post by salomonj on Jun 25, 2018 5:46:08 GMT
Both exist.
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Post by Sulla on Jun 25, 2018 6:02:12 GMT
I doubt either exists.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jun 25, 2018 6:08:59 GMT
I prefer Heaven for climate, Hell for company.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 25, 2018 7:35:01 GMT
I doubt they exist but I never died so I cant say for sure.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Jun 25, 2018 7:36:50 GMT
Possibly Black Sabbath's best album
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 8:44:15 GMT
Neither exist
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jun 25, 2018 9:10:39 GMT
IT'S Heaven and Hell, NOT heaven and hell. They ARE proper places (as well as states-of-mind) and therefore the first letter IS to be capitalized.
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Post by someguy on Jun 25, 2018 13:38:50 GMT
I WANT to think that they exist (well, I would prefer that only Heaven exists, but they are a package deal), but I am not presumptuous enough to claim them as fact.
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Post by lordquesterjones on Jun 25, 2018 14:01:43 GMT
I don't believe either exists.
Although, being English, I'd get a free pass into Heaven if it does exist; if I wanted it.
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Post by Caesar Roberto on Jun 25, 2018 15:00:31 GMT
absolutely both exist. good & evil. angels & demons. Jesus,the Son of God who rose from the dead, spoke more
about these things than anyone. He Himself after His baptism was in the desert 40 days tempted
by satan. Jesus spoke the truth & proved His words & power to perform indisputable miracles were from the Father in heaven. read john, mark, luke, then matthew. last then revelation. nothing could be more important for you.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit testimony - it is Impossible for God to lie. He came to tell us the truth, show us the Father,
and provide a sacrifice, for we who believe in Him, to be able to go to heaven. if you think you're just too busy,
get a red letter edition & read the words in red. you really want to get this one decision right by reading
the words of God Himself
One of slovak's sockpuppets revealed?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jun 25, 2018 18:01:38 GMT
Good album.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 26, 2018 0:52:32 GMT
I see someone voted for 'only Heaven exists' and another for 'only hell exists'. but personally... I don't think those people are being serious.
You do realize it's only kids who goof off have more than one account around here, right? I can assure you I only have one account here as there is no reason/point to having more than one account unless one wants to screw around or something like that (which I don't do).
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Post by NewtJorden on Jun 26, 2018 2:49:59 GMT
Neither exist of course
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Post by ᵗʰᵉᵃᵘˣᵖʰᵒᵘ on Jun 26, 2018 4:40:51 GMT
They're both my favourite fictional places.
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Post by koskiewicz on Jun 26, 2018 15:26:53 GMT
...I am on the fence with this one. Kinda like a mugwump. with the mug on one side and the wump on the other...
heaven, n. A place where the wicked cease from troubling you with talk of their own personal affairs, and the good listen with attention while you expound your own. -Ambrose Bierce
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