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Post by rogerthat on Jul 2, 2018 22:18:31 GMT
I thought the original was a lot of fun. Probably give it a 8. Still love the line from Roddy McDowall " Ihave just been fired because nobody wants to see vampire killers anymore, or vampires either. Apparently, all they want to see are demented madmen running around in ski-masks, hacking up young virgins."
Saw the sequel but honestly don't remember it well enough to give it a score right now.
Never saw remake and its sequel.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 3, 2018 0:57:33 GMT
I don't quite get the hate or lack of popularity towards Fright Night Part 2. Yeah, sure, Evil Ed and Amy don't appear in it, but I don't feel it negates the film in anyway.
It opened the same week as Patrick Swayze's Roadhouse and this one took all the glory. Perhaps they needed to hold it back until October 89' for a Halloween release.
I havent seen it in ages. I remember not caring for the supporting characters of vampires-werewolves, but I remember little about it. The IMDB said that the killing of Jose Menendez caused a lack of distribution and marketing for it.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 3, 2018 1:39:43 GMT
*edit* According to IMDB, the film was released in May 89', the murders didn't happen until August.
LOL yeah that is why I take everything on IMDB trivia with a grain of salt. I know McDowall met with Jose Menendez and it went badly, but I doubt he said the next day "he didnt do it."
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 3, 2018 2:06:20 GMT
There must've been other red tape and politics involved for some reason. It's appears the film's distribution was sabotaged by it's own producers. Yeah possibly. I do remember it being advertised--as it was covered in Fangoria. The first film was I think something of a late summer sleeper hit (I know it came out in August).
I seem to remember specifically that Entertainment Tonight covered the film so it did have some advertising. Nack then it wasnt like now where a film comes out and gets wall to wall advertising. It had to compete with a lot of other films that got equal or more advertising.,,then again I remember Road House ...and it didnt have that much competition for the day according to this:
How weird--it says it was released in Australia in Dec 1988 and then May 1989 in the US.
Re: the numbers Wow no wonder I never encountered HAUNTED SUMMER except in a brief magazine article. It only made $10 000!
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Post by Lebowskidoo π¦ on Jul 3, 2018 13:53:00 GMT
Evil Ed is my favorite character, and one of the most lasting things about Fright Night for me was the depth given to his character. He was a goofball outsider, which the vampire used against him to lure him into darkness, promising he would belong, at last, as a vampire among vampires. I thought that was quite sad and tragic, to use his loneliness that way. And later, when he lies dying and impaled, his mournful moans make you feel badly for him again. All of this is great stuff for a horror film.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jul 3, 2018 15:19:17 GMT
I totally agree with you here stefancrosscoe ( BTW - a most perfectly put reply here too ) . The original - Fright Night from 1985 and it's sequel - Fright Night Part 2 from 1988 ( IMPO ) were and still are my top favorite modern vampire films also . These both make my list of Halloween films to watch every year as well . Sorry you were unable to see the original Fright Night Part 2 but if you do get to finally watch this it will be worth it IMPO - it's definitely just as good as the first one and also it's music scores & soundtrack too . Thanks so much for your reply . I do think Fright Night Part 2 has or maybe still is lying around on Youtube or some other online site where one can watch the whole film, but I would prefer to have a physical copy of it, but not something I have to pay somewhere between that of Β£130 or up to a insanely high price of 264 dollars for a brand new copy, of the 2003 Artisan version. However, just looking through both Amazon.com and Amazon.uk there are actually an 2016 spanish DVD/Blu-ray release, which seems far more nicer in price than the one above. Would be interesting to hear if any fans of the film either own or know a little of this release, as I guess that is for now probably the closest one can get to a decent priced version of the movie. Either that or I should just hook up with the VHS copy. I agree, Fright Night (1985) is one of the finest Halloween/autumn 80s horror movies I know of, but like with all great movies, one I can watch whenever I feel like it, no matter the time of year.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jul 3, 2018 15:38:57 GMT
Evil Ed is my favorite character, and one of the most lasting things about Fright Night for me was the depth given to his character. He was a goofball outsider, which the vampire used against him to lure him into darkness, promising he would belong, at last, as a vampire among vampires. I thought that was quite sad and tragic, to use his loneliness that way. And later, when he lies dying and impaled, his mournful moans make you feel badly for him again. All of this is great stuff for a horror film. A great post there, Lebowskidoo. Evil Ed and Peter Vincent was such good and colorful characters and not to imply in any way that William Ragsdale was poor but Stephen Geoffreys and Roddy McDowall completely stole the show along with Chris Sarandon. A very interesting and as you mentioned thing is that Fright Night brought with it a certain depth to its many characters, and I guess with the whole slasher/teen horror craze still going on strong at the time, it was maybe not something which was too often seen in 80s movies and Fright Night managed to succeed in being both a little "goofy" and adventurous but also more dark and serious without going way over-the-top. One of my all time favorite horror movie scenes (not just in this film) is when Jerry hunts down poor Ed in a dark and seedy alley, and as you so nicely put it, promises him a place to belong. Compare this fantastic and classic scene in the original to the random, trashy looking one from the remake.
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Post by Lebowskidoo π¦ on Jul 3, 2018 17:56:22 GMT
Evil Ed is my favorite character, and one of the most lasting things about Fright Night for me was the depth given to his character. He was a goofball outsider, which the vampire used against him to lure him into darkness, promising he would belong, at last, as a vampire among vampires. I thought that was quite sad and tragic, to use his loneliness that way. And later, when he lies dying and impaled, his mournful moans make you feel badly for him again. All of this is great stuff for a horror film. A great post there, Lebowskidoo. Evil Ed and Peter Vincent was such good and colorful characters and not to imply in any way that William Ragsdale was poor but Stephen Geoffreys and Roddy McDowall completely stole the show along with Chris Sarandon. A very interesting and as you mentioned thing is that Fright Night brought with it a certain depth to its many characters, and I guess with the whole slasher/teen horror craze still going on strong at the time, it was maybe not something which was too often seen in 80s movies and Fright Night managed to succeed in being both a little "goofy" and adventurous but also more dark and serious without going way over-the-top. One of my all time favorite horror movie scenes (not just in this film) is when Jerry hunts down poor Ed in a dark and seedy alley, and as you so nicely put it, promises him a place to belong. Compare this fantastic and classic scene in the original to the random, trashy looking one from the remake. Nice write-up yourself, stefancrosscoeI like that the remake went in it's own direction, but the original still strikes a chord somewhere in me.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 5, 2018 0:11:41 GMT
Evil Ed is my favorite character, and one of the most lasting things about Fright Night for me was the depth given to his character. He was a goofball outsider, which the vampire used against him to lure him into darkness, promising he would belong, at last, as a vampire among vampires. I thought that was quite sad and tragic, to use his loneliness that way. And later, when he lies dying and impaled, his mournful moans make you feel badly for him again. All of this is great stuff for a horror film. Yes, and he made a scary vampire too. Good use of FX for his death scene.
"I heard it was the second in two days. And both of them had their heads chopped off! Haha, can you believe it?"
"You're sick!"
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jul 5, 2018 0:22:13 GMT
Good use of a wolf in that scene too. I do not find werewolves scary, but the way they shot the wolf running down the corridor was creepy. Not to mention the transformation occurs in full house light. There's something frankly corporeal about it--showing Vincent that vampires can really be destroyed, and this gives him the courage to go back for the final confrontation. The way he grabs the table leg, as if you say to himself-ok this will work.
One thing that did bug me-was Dandridge evil, or a victim? he tells Charlie that he could give him something he doesn't have, a choice--but would he really have left Charlie alone? or was he just wanting to emotionally manipulate him? I doubt he would have left him alone-and as soon as he saw Amy resembled someone he knew, SHIRLEY he would have gone after her and the trouble would have happened anyway.
I think Dandridge was totally evil. He didnt seem a tragic figure when he enters the room whistling "Strangers in the night."
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Post by lostinlimbo on Jul 6, 2018 5:21:17 GMT
LOL yeah that is why I take everything on IMDB trivia with a grain of salt. I know McDowall met with Jose Menendez and it went badly, but I doubt he said the next day "he didnt do it." There must've been other red tape and politics involved for some reason. It's appears the film's distribution was sabotaged by it's own producers.
*edit* It was also released in Australia, NZ and the UK in late 88 early 89, before the US.
If I remember correctly they go into detail about the failure of βFight Night Part 2β on the documentary βYouβre so cool Brewster! The Story of Fright Nightβ. If youβre fan of the original film, even the sequel, its definitely worthwhile.
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Post by novastar6 on Jul 11, 2018 5:29:07 GMT
I LOVED the first movie, I like the second one too, I know it really makes NO sense, the first movie just stands alone, didn't need a sequel, Dandridge having a sister doesn't really make sense, I know, but I still liked it.
Haven't seen the remake, and refuse to.
The one thing about 2 that really burns me up is that they NEVER address in Charlie's 'rationalization' of what happened in the first movie, WHAT happened to Evil Ed?
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Post by Vits on Jul 11, 2018 19:42:57 GMT
Haven't seen the remake, and refuse to. Why?
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Post by novastar6 on Jul 12, 2018 5:23:15 GMT
Haven't seen the remake, and refuse to. Why?
Because if the trailer leaves me thinking 'looks like it's gonna suck', that doesn't inspire me to check it out and see if I'm wrong. It's the same reason I didn't go to the theater to see any new movies for 4 years.
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