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Post by snsurone on Jul 5, 2018 18:24:28 GMT
On both coasts, there were famous establishments, sometimes used in movies, that have gone under.
In LA, there were Ciro's, The Brown Derby, and the Coconut Grove, among others.
In NYC, there's Luchow's and DelMonico's, not to mention Ebbetts Field and The Polo Grounds.
In fact, it was the demolition of the old Penn Station that led to the establishment of the Landmarks Preservation Committee, that saved Grand Central Terminal (and many other buildings) from suffering the same fate.
I don't know how many of my fellow posters are old enough to remember these places.
Does anyone else know any other establishments that are no longer with us.
And do you miss them?
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Post by mattgarth on Jul 5, 2018 18:31:58 GMT
NYC -- The Stork Club
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Post by telegonus on Jul 5, 2018 18:44:00 GMT
Penn station?  Shows you the size of the rock I've been living under all these years. How f could they let that happen? In Boston we lost an entire neighborhood! It was famous only locally, but everyone knew it: the West End. It was more or less between what was then Scollay Square (also gone, and actually more famous) and Mass. General Hospital. North Station was a part of the West End. It was very low income but not a bad place to live, always had strong ethnic vibes, it was more or less the Lower East Side of Boston, dominated by Irish immigrants early on, then Jewish ones, for a very long time, it had become predominantly Italian by mid-20th century. There was also a large Polish and East European contingent. I had a friend, whose parents came from Poland, who was my age, who spent his early years there. My mother loved the West End for its antique shops (actually more like junk stores, a lot of them sold valuable items that it took a sharp eye to notice, including rare books). There's a great book about it called The Urban Villagers, whose author, Herbert Gans, deconstructed. accurately and correctly, every myth, canard,--call them what you will--that led to that neighborhood's demolition. I love old cities and hate to see those wonderful, funky places, not necessarily, from an historian's perspective, of great value, as in no Revolutionary war battles were fought there, George Washington never slept there (etc.), destroyed, and yet so many of them are as integral to the city's character as any more famous place that tourists flock to. Oh well. Had to share... |
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 5, 2018 18:48:58 GMT
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 5, 2018 18:51:33 GMT
There's a Madison Square Garden but it's not the same place as its previous (3?) incarnations.
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Post by teleadm on Jul 5, 2018 18:54:10 GMT
Maybe a little bit OT:  Maybe a bit personal, but in this house was once cinema "Teaterbiografen", around 1963-1964 my father took me there and we watched a Disney shorts matinée, that was the first time at a cinema for me. The houses on this picture was demolished in the late 1960s to make place for a modern bank palace. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 5, 2018 18:55:47 GMT
Hat to mention it, but the standard establishing shot for NYC from 1973 to 2001 was the World Trade Center. It kind of gives you a shock to see it in a movie or TV show.
Not a place per se, but I would have loved to ride the original Istanbul to Calais Orient Express.
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Post by neurosturgeon on Jul 5, 2018 18:59:24 GMT
IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD featured many places that I recall from my childhood that no longer exist. One came to mind just this morning when the news was covering the destruction of the Gerald Desmond Bridge. That bridge was built to replace the Pontoon Bridge, that was built around the time of WWII that got people out to the Navy Base and Terminal Island.
The Pontoon Bridge was quite the experience to drive on, as it floated on water. My mother hated it, so my experience was limited.
Many of the other locations are gone:
Police Station was the YMCA
Brownies Toys had Peter Falk's taxi parked out front
Imperial Hardware destroyed by Sid Caesar
Lincoln Statue was relocated but still exists
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 5, 2018 19:09:30 GMT
I see that the Vienna wheel made famous in The Third Man still exists. Times Square has been tidied up.  |
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Post by mikef6 on Jul 5, 2018 19:10:14 GMT
Most of old Los Angeles from the classic movie era is gone. In “L.A. Story” (1991) as Steve Martin is showing someone around the city he comments, “Some of these buildings are 20 years old.”
The site of the Hollywood Hotel has changed twice. The spot now holds the Dolby Center where the Oscars are held each year.
The Brown Derby restaurant chain.
Hollywood’s “Poverty Row” studios.
Property belonging to the Bigs, including their backlots and several “ranches” where westerns were filmed.
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Post by snsurone on Jul 5, 2018 19:18:12 GMT
Tele, I don't think you'd recognize the Lower East Side of Manhattan today.
The last time I was in that neighborhood (this past April), there were quite a number of those hideous glass-and-brass high rises being erected, especially along West 12th Street, near the Piers.
I'm so glad that my neighborhood, between West 72nd and 96th Streets are landmarked.
Even when new buildings are erected, they have to follow strict guidelines as to their construction.
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Post by marshamae on Jul 5, 2018 19:53:51 GMT
Horn and Hardarts
Mama Leone’s
Helen Hayes Theater
Daffy’s
Carnegie Deli
Stage Deli
Tavern on the Green- there’s a restaurant in the building now but when it closed in bankruptcy a few years ago all the amazing furnishings were sold.
Mocambo
The old Lindy’s
The last time I checked Juniors was still there, in Schubert ally , last of the cheap good diners for show folks where you could see gypsies in makeup grabbing a bite before the show.
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Post by deembastille on Jul 5, 2018 20:13:50 GMT
the apartment building from THERES SOMETHING ABOUT MARY was destroyed when a crane building the high rise behind it/next to it malfunctioned and dropped the piece it was lifting into place. was not destroyed on site but the building had to be torn down because of the damage.
where they shot the inside of the town house in HOW TO MURDER YOUR WIFE. heck, the outside of the building still exists but you could never tell by looking at it now.
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Post by snsurone on Jul 5, 2018 20:18:08 GMT
I could also add the department stores in NYC, such as Gimbel's, Klein's, and E. J. Korvette's.
Today, Macy's, Bloomingdale's, and perhaps Barney's are the only major emporia in the Big Apple.
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 5, 2018 20:36:33 GMT
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Post by amyghost on Jul 5, 2018 22:08:23 GMT
I see that the Vienna wheel made famous in The Third Man still exists. Times Square has been tidied up. Good old grungy Times Square. I was going to mention that one; actually much of Manhattan no longer really exists, what with all the Gentrification/Disneyfication that's occurred over the past couple of decades. The NYC of my youth, and the popular image of the city that was stamped on the public consciousness from all those Seventies films and telly ranging from The French Connection to Barney Miller, and about ten gazillion other productions along the gamut is pretty much as gone as the woolly mammoth. Maybe for the better, although I for one am not completely convinced of that... |
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Post by deembastille on Jul 5, 2018 22:14:24 GMT
I WOULD LOVE GRUNGY TIMES SQUARE. GOD. the shit we have now is just embarrassing.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 5, 2018 22:24:10 GMT
I WOULD LOVE GRUNGY TIMES SQUARE. GOD. the shit we have now is just embarrassing. I die a little when I look at old photos of it. Might have been the apex of the idea of the Sinful Big City, but it had grit and character. You won't find much of either around the island now, except in a few isolated pockets that the developers haven't felt was worth their while to 'pretty up'...yet. |
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Post by bravomailer on Jul 5, 2018 22:26:14 GMT
I have an odd interest in films set in NY in the late 60s and 70s. In addition to The French Connection and Taxi Driver, there's The Seven Ups, Panic in Needle Park....
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Post by deembastille on Jul 5, 2018 22:26:53 GMT
I WOULD LOVE GRUNGY TIMES SQUARE. GOD. the shit we have now is just embarrassing. I die a little when I look at old photos of it. Might have been the apex of the idea of the Sinful Big City, but it had grit and character. You won't find much of either around the island now, except in a few isolated pockets that the developers haven't felt was worth their while to 'pretty up'...yet. girl, i live in queens, work in the Bronx and have to use manhattan to get from one place to another. i know. there are still some historical places that just scream: 23 DOLLARS WORTH OF BAUBLES! [yeah, that's the price of manhattan island!] |
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Shows you the size of the rock I've been living under all these years. How f could they let that happen? In Boston we lost an entire neighborhood! It was famous only locally, but everyone knew it: the West End. It was more or less between what was then Scollay Square (also gone, and actually more famous) and Mass. General Hospital. North Station was a part of the West End. 
