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Post by reelreviews2 on Jul 7, 2018 6:40:52 GMT
Man of Steel was good I don't know why it got a rotten score. I can see why the other two did though.
Man of Rehash is garbage. The whole point of a "reboot" is to CORRECT the problems of the previous incarnation of the franchise. Man of Rehash simply REPLICATED all the problems people had with Superman Returns (no charisma between Superman & Lois Lane, ultra-serious dour tone that lacked the fun and upbeat spirit of previous Superman movies, lame rehashed plot, recycling the same villains over and over again, etc.) PLUS is created NEW problems (massive destruction porn, Superman committing murder, Pa Kent's pointless death, etc.)
Man of Rehash fanboys like to retroactively claim Superman Returns under-performed because it had "no action", and that "Superman should be punching people", yet they can't point to a single review of Superman Returns where the critic says he LOVES the dour bleak tone but is dissatified because there should be massive carnage in the movie and Superman should be beating people up.
It's not surprising that critics who weren't happy with Superman Returns material were STILL not happy 7 years later when Man of Rehash gave them more of the same.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jul 7, 2018 7:08:12 GMT
Man of Steel was good I don't know why it got a rotten score. I can see why the other two did though.
Man of Rehash is garbage. The whole point of a "reboot" is to CORRECT the problems of the previous incarnation of the franchise. Man of Rehash simply REPLICATED all the problems people had with Superman Returns (no charisma between Superman & Lois Lane, ultra-serious dour tone that lacked the fun and upbeat spirit of previous Superman movies, lame rehashed plot, recycling the same villains over and over again, etc.) PLUS is created NEW problems (massive destruction porn, Superman committing murder, Pa Kent's pointless death, etc.)
Man of Rehash fanboys like to retroactively claim Superman Returns under-performed because it had "no action", and that "Superman should be punching people", yet they can't point to a single review of Superman Returns where the critic says he LOVES the dour bleak tone but is dissatified because there should be massive carnage in the movie and Superman should be beating people up.
It's not surprising that critics who weren't happy with Superman Returns material were STILL not happy 7 years later when Man of Rehash gave them more of the same.
 Say, how did MOS create "NEW problems" by "Superman committing murder, Pa Kent's pointless death, etc.". You mean the final scene where he killed Zod to save a family that Zod tried to murder (you seem to be ignorant of the meaning of legal terms like "murder" btw, check out how I do it, see the difference)? How is that "NEW" and different from Superman II were Supes sadistically smashed, powerless-human Zod's hand and killed Zod without need but with a smile? How was his father's death pointless in MOS, did it not hammer home Mr Kent's point of "don't reveal yourself"? I remember you from the SW forums where you soiled yourself with low effort thinking and were finally laughed off. Smells like history is repeating itself. You are entertaining doing your thing though. |
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Post by scabab on Jul 7, 2018 7:25:15 GMT
Man of Steels plot was nothing like Superman Returns. Superman Returns obviously had next to no action in it, in a time when you had the popular Spider-man and X-men movies that had plenty of action. I'm not going to skim through specific reviews but on Wikipedia it does say "Upon release, Superman Returns received generally positive reviews, with critics praising its visual effects, story, musical score, the performances and style. However, it received criticism focusing on its runtime and lack of action sequences." Even the Warner Bros President linked it's underperformance to a lack of action. "Warner Bros. President Alan F. Horn explained that Superman Returns was a very successful film, but that it "should have done $500 million worldwide. We should have had perhaps a little more action to satisfy the young male crowd." Bryan Singer also said for the sequel he would go "all Wrath of Khan on it" so it was clearly an issue. Superman Returns was a plain boring movie and Man of Steel wasn't and that's why generally considered a lot better with the masses. Man of Steel finally had the action that was deserved for a Superman movie and of course there would be enormous destruction. There's nobody more powerful than Superman so it's not going to be like a Captain America fight. It did rehash a villain but Superman movies have always had that problem. Theres seven movies and they've only used three different villains from the comic. |
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Post by gromel on Jul 7, 2018 8:11:37 GMT
The blame for the DCEU falls squarely on Snyder but all the other meddling people should bear some of it. If it was pure unadulterated Snyder, especially Justice League as a possible two-parter with an actual evil brainwashed Superman subplot, the reception would probably be even worse, but it would be at least consistent.
Also... LOTR isn't a perfect trilogy. The third one coasted on the goodwill from the previous two, up to winning all those Oscars by proxy, to cover up the glaring plot hiccups which the others didn't have to the same extent. Christopher Lee was left on the cutting room floor, for goodness's sake, so they could fit in more battle silliness.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jul 7, 2018 11:17:20 GMT
Dawn of the Dead remake was a surprisingly good movie, considering most remakes suck.
My top Snyder films:
1. Man of Steel
2. Watchman
3. 300
4. Dawn of the Dead
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Post by reelreviews2 on Aug 2, 2018 3:58:11 GMT
I see MOS fanboys on here are trying to retcon MOS's release and claim it was popular and well done.
In reality, it may be the WORST of Hack Synder's Pure Crap Trilogy, simply because it set up such a terrible foundation for his "universe" that it was impossible for ANY writer or director, no matter how talented, to make a GOOD followup movie from that crappy foundation.
Check out this YouTube video on how Man of Rehash's pitch session likely went. They NAILED it!
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Post by sostie on Aug 2, 2018 12:07:40 GMT
I actually thought Zack Snyder was going to be a great director of the future. Dawn Of The Dead, 300 and Watchmen were all pretty great to watch and were all better than I ever expected them to be. Was downhill after that, though I intend to give Man Of Steel another viewing soon as I think it may be better than I remembered (or better now in comparison to the subsequent DCEU films)
Personally I'd give the pure crap trilogy award to Lucas for Eps 1-3
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Post by syafiqjabar on Aug 3, 2018 0:57:14 GMT
This is like a honeypot for blocking people (starting with the OP).
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Post by hobowar on Aug 3, 2018 1:33:12 GMT
Zack Snyder is the Tommy Wiseau of comic book movies.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 3, 2018 1:38:46 GMT
Man of Steel was good I don't know why it got a rotten score. I can see why the other two did though. Still on Rotten Tomatoes Man of Steel has a 55% and Justice League a 40% but both movies have a fairly good 75% audience score. But then Captain America has a 79% but a slightly lower audience score of 74%. Incredible Hulk has a 67% but a 71% audience score. Iron Man 2 has a 73% and a 72% audience score. So I don't know where there's such a disparity. Critics are biased in favor of MCU. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Aug 3, 2018 3:05:20 GMT
Man of Steel was good I don't know why it got a rotten score. I can see why the other two did though. Still on Rotten Tomatoes Man of Steel has a 55% and Justice League a 40% but both movies have a fairly good 75% audience score. But then Captain America has a 79% but a slightly lower audience score of 74%. Incredible Hulk has a 67% but a 71% audience score. Iron Man 2 has a 73% and a 72% audience score. So I don't know where there's such a disparity. Critics are biased in favor of MCU. Lol. Your (unintentional) humor pleases me so much, thanks for that. |
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 3, 2018 17:20:51 GMT
Yep. Apart from Dawn of the Dead, Snyder has never made a good movie. 300 and Watchmen are better than most MCU movies. Watchmen, as much as I liked the movie, underperformed financially and didn't exactly get stellar critical praise. It wasn't rate rotten but it's rated pretty much on the same scale as Thor TDW. |
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Post by hobowar on Apr 12, 2021 14:12:56 GMT
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 12, 2021 17:33:52 GMT
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